Classify two Yenish from France

[Mortimer]

Because they are different populations and they don't claim any connection with Roma. There are plenty of indigenous groups around Europe that travelled from place to place and mixed with themselves.



https://brightside.me/articles/10-in...Roman%20Empire.

Im not claiming this group, i say there are groups in france who have romani and french ancestry or european ancestry, why dont you believe this i dont know what their names are, tzigani, gitanos, or whatever they are called... like django reinhardt

[Grace O'Malley]

Im not claiming this group, i say there are groups in france who have romani and french ancestry or european ancestry, why dont you believe this i dont know what their names are, tzigani, gitanos, or whatever they are called... like django reinhardt

Straw men. Did I say I didn't? I've just said that the Yenish aren't Roma. They originate from people mostly in the area of France, Germany, Switzerland etc and their language has a Germanic origin.

[Mortimer]

Straw men. Did I say I didn't? I've just said that the Yenish aren't Roma. They originate from people mostly in the area of France, Germany, Switzerland etc and their language has a Germanic origin.

You started with the straw men because i never said yenishe are but flashball

[Grace O'Malley]

You started with the straw men because i never said yenishe are but flashball

No I didn't. I've just commented on the Yenish and then you brought up other groups and accused me of not believing you. Go and look at the thread.

[Mortimer]

No I didn't. I've just commented on the Yenish and then you brought up other groups and accused me of not believing you. Go and look at the thread.

You started quoting me look yourself

[Grace O'Malley]

You started quoting me look yourself

But Mortimer I've just been speaking of the Yenish. I don't know what you are going on about?

You then accused me of not believing you when I wasn't even discussing what you were because you changed the subject of the thread.

Im not claiming this group, i say there are groups in france who have romani and french ancestry or european ancestry, why dont you believe this i dont know what their names are, tzigani, gitanos, or whatever they are called... like django reinhardt

I never commented on people you are discussing because it's irrelevant to discussing the Yenish.

[Mortimer]

But Mortimer I've just been speaking of the Yenish. I don't know what you are going on about?

You then accused me of not believing you when I wasn't even discussing what you were because you changed the subject of the thread.



I never commented on people you are discussing because it's irrelevant to discussing the Yenish.

You pretended as if i said something about yenish quoting me when i said it only about flashball i do not know why you quoted me

[Grace O'Malley]

You pretended as if i said something about yenish quoting me when i said it only about flashball i do not know why you quoted me

I pretended did I??? Flashball posted about two Yenish and you asked him if he was French gypsy saying he was dark etc. I replied that the Yenish had no Roma ancestry.

You replied

There might be local french mixed populations im sure, between celtic travellers and roma people. Who are french gypsies, just like in Britain its wrong that none of them has any relation to the original roma. In Britain so many "gypsies were tested H1 y-dna"

Because they are different populations and they don't claim any connection with Roma. There are plenty of indigenous groups around Europe that travelled from place to place and mixed with themselves.

This is an itinerant group in Central and Western Europe and they’re sometimes called “gypsies,” a name often applied to the Roma or Romani people, which is incorrect. The Yenish people really do live a bit like the Roma: they travel all the time, and they mostly sell goods and play music. But genetically, they’re European, not Indo-Aryan like Romani people are.

https://brightside.me/articles/10-in...Roman%20Empire.

You replied

Im not claiming this group, i say there are groups in france who have romani and french ancestry or european ancestry, why dont you believe this i dont know what their names are, tzigani, gitanos, or whatever they are called... like django reinhardt

I replied

Straw men. Did I say I didn't? I've just said that the Yenish aren't Roma. They originate from people mostly in the area of France, Germany, Switzerland etc and their language has a Germanic origin.

And then you replied

You started with the straw men because i never said yenishe are but flashball

So what are you trying to say and accuse me of? This is all very confusing. I'm speaking of the Yenish and now you are saying I pretended what?

[Grace O'Malley]

I pretended did I??? Flashball posted about two Yenish and you asked him if he was French gypsy saying he was dark etc. I replied that the Yenish had no Roma ancestry.

You replied



Because they are different populations and they don't claim any connection with Roma. There are plenty of indigenous groups around Europe that travelled from place to place and mixed with themselves.


https://brightside.me/articles/10-in...Roman%20Empire.

You replied



I replied

Straw men. Did I say I didn't? I've just said that the Yenish aren't Roma. They originate from people mostly in the area of France, Germany, Switzerland etc and their language has a Germanic origin.

And then you replied



So what are you trying to say and accuse me of? This is all very confusing. I'm speaking of the Yenish and now you are saying I pretended what?

So you were talking about Flashball personally when I thought you were speaking about Yenish because the thread is afterall about Yenish. I was replying about Yenish and you were discussing something different. Well the confusion is understandable.

[Mortimer]

So you were talking about Flashball personally when I thought you were speaking about Yenish because the thread is afterall about Yenish. I was replying about Yenish and you were discussing something different. Well the confusion is understandable.

Yes it is a confusion because i spoke about flashball personally