R7P G25: Anc Pop Ave Scaled & Mod Pop Ave Scaled

**majevica** · 04-26-2024, 09:28 PM

Target: scaled(DNAGenics)
Distance: 0.0031% / 0.00311786 | R7P
27.3 Serbia_Viminacium_Roman_elite_1.SG
19.9 Serbia_SvilosKrussevlje_Roman.SG
18.0 Serbia_Viminacium_Roman.SG
14.6 England_IA_EarlyMedieval
7.6 Russia_Caucasus_Medieval
6.4 Turkey_CamlibelTarlasi_LateC
6.2 Turkey_TellKurdu_EMC

Target: scaled(DNAGenics)
Distance: 0.0033% / 0.00333373 | R7P
43.8 Croatian
22.0 Greek_Corinthia
13.0 Cossack_Kuban
6.0 Chechen
6.0 Polish_Silesian
6.0 Spanish_Soria
3.2 Roma_Balkans

**ScandinavianCelt** · 04-26-2024, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by brunolord20

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 0.0209% / 0.02086593 | R7P
54.4 Spanish_Soria
13.5 Igbo
10.4 Bantu_Kenya
8.7 Karitiana
5.9 Norwegian
4.4 Moroccan
2.7 Sudan_Arab_Rashaayda

Target: NightmareCity_scaled
Distance: 0.0140% / 0.01401301 | R7P
24.5 Ireland_EBA.SG
23.8 Tanzania_Pemba_600BP
20.8 Germany_MN_Esperstedt
16.0 Spain_Zapateria_Argar
8.4 Chile_LIP_Pukara_600BP
3.4 Russia_AfontovaGora3
3.1 Morocco_EN.SG

Very nice mix!

**cass** · 04-26-2024, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by #Oda#

R7P gives random results. On the next approach it might as well be:
Target: cass
Distance: 0.0000% / 0.00002938 | R7P
30.2 Dutch
28.9 Polish
18.0 Lithuanian_PA
8.4 Moldovan
6.1 Austrian
4.7 Lithuanian_RA
3.7 Ukrainian_Dnipro

I incorrectly used Global25 datasheet modern scaled instead of Global25 pop averages modern scaled.

For averages it should be:

Target: cass
Distance: 0.0069% / 0.00686700 | R7P
19.5 Lithuanian_PZ
16.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
15.9 French_Paris
15.9 Latvian
11.9 Icelandic
11.0 French_Seine-Maritime
9.6 Montenegrin

Rather an expected outcome, considering some overlapping of communities.

**cass** · 04-26-2024, 09:57 PM

dp

**celticdragongod** · 04-26-2024, 10:52 PM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01750323 Faroes_EarlyModern.SG
0.01886435 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval
0.01954554 Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval
0.02064706 England_Saxon
0.02085163 England_Saxon.SG
0.02103645 Scotland_Viking.SG
0.02129685 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman.SG
0.02146174 England_EarlyMedieval
0.02188711 Faroes_EarlyModern_o1.SG
0.02198223 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.02211517 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.02254022 Greenland_EarlyNorse.SG
0.02261033 Hungary_Langobard
0.02285206 England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon
0.02291825 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG
0.02300055 England_EastYorkshire_MIA
0.02302466 Germany_Anderten_Saxon_Medieval
0.02324718 England_IA_Roman.SG
0.02356365 England_IA
0.02361714 Scotland_EIA
0.02365819 England_MIA_LIA
0.02369655 Iceland_Pre_Christian.SG
0.02375461 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1
0.02399309 England_MIA
0.02415041 England_Viking.SG

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0103% / 0.01029039 | R7P
21.9 Faroes_EarlyModern_o1.SG
21.9 Iceland_Early_Christian_o.SG
16.5 Scotland_IA
15.0 Scotland_Skye_IA.SG
12.2 USA_PA_Colonist.SG
9.3 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval_oAfrica2
3.2 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01700079 Scottish
0.01720422 Shetlandic
0.01810896 English_Cornwall
0.01849192 Irish
0.01901995 Welsh
0.01905219 English
0.01923543 Orcadian
0.01935995 Danish
0.01968107 Dutch
0.02022034 Norwegian
0.02186695 Icelandic
0.02452252 French_Brittany
0.02795791 German_Hamburg
0.02844860 BelgianA
0.02902552 German
0.02970452 Swedish
0.03110589 Afrikaner
0.03369178 German_Erlangen
0.03716308 BelgianB
0.03805567 German_East
0.03819977 French_Nord
0.03871886 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04003523 BelgianC
0.04158617 Austrian
0.04162023 French_Alsace

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0140% / 0.01403457 | R7P
53.1 English_Cornwall
39.9 Shetlandic
5.0 Finnish_Southwest
2.0 Lithuanian_VZ

**ScandinavianCelt** · 04-26-2024, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by celticdragongod

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01750323 Faroes_EarlyModern.SG
0.01886435 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval
0.01954554 Germany_Schleswig_Saxon_LMedieval
0.02064706 England_Saxon
0.02085163 England_Saxon.SG
0.02103645 Scotland_Viking.SG
0.02129685 Austria_Klosterneuburg_Roman.SG
0.02146174 England_EarlyMedieval
0.02188711 Faroes_EarlyModern_o1.SG
0.02198223 Ireland_Kilteasheen_AngloSaxon_EMedieval_Norman
0.02211517 Denmark_Viking.SG
0.02254022 Greenland_EarlyNorse.SG
0.02261033 Hungary_Langobard
0.02285206 England_EarlyMedieval_Saxon
0.02291825 Germany_EarlyMedieval.SG
0.02300055 England_EastYorkshire_MIA
0.02302466 Germany_Anderten_Saxon_Medieval
0.02324718 England_IA_Roman.SG
0.02356365 England_IA
0.02361714 Scotland_EIA
0.02365819 England_MIA_LIA
0.02369655 Iceland_Pre_Christian.SG
0.02375461 Italy_North_EarlyMedieval_Langobards_1
0.02399309 England_MIA
0.02415041 England_Viking.SG

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0103% / 0.01029039 | R7P
21.9 Faroes_EarlyModern_o1.SG
21.9 Iceland_Early_Christian_o.SG
16.5 Scotland_IA
15.0 Scotland_Skye_IA.SG
12.2 USA_PA_Colonist.SG
9.3 Netherlands_Groningen_Saxon_Medieval_oAfrica2
3.2 Italy_Salapia_Daunian.SG

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.01700079 Scottish
0.01720422 Shetlandic
0.01810896 English_Cornwall
0.01849192 Irish
0.01901995 Welsh
0.01905219 English
0.01923543 Orcadian
0.01935995 Danish
0.01968107 Dutch
0.02022034 Norwegian
0.02186695 Icelandic
0.02452252 French_Brittany
0.02795791 German_Hamburg
0.02844860 BelgianA
0.02902552 German
0.02970452 Swedish
0.03110589 Afrikaner
0.03369178 German_Erlangen
0.03716308 BelgianB
0.03805567 German_East
0.03819977 French_Nord
0.03871886 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04003523 BelgianC
0.04158617 Austrian
0.04162023 French_Alsace

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 0.0140% / 0.01403457 | R7P
53.1 English_Cornwall
39.9 Shetlandic
5.0 Finnish_Southwest
2.0 Lithuanian_VZ

Keep going keep trying until you get all your outliers out you got to delete your outliers to see what you get

**RyoHazuki** · 04-27-2024, 03:25 AM

Removed Icelandic, English Cornwall, Orcadian, Spanish Asturias, and Afrikaner

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.0070% / 0.00702595 | R7P
29.4 Welsh
17.1 English
15.7 Danish
13.5 Spanish_Barcelones
10.8 Basque_French
8.0 BelgianA
5.5 Lithuanian_SZ

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 0.0262% / 0.02622730 | R7P
75.2 English
10.5 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
9.6 Finnish_Southwest
3.0 Saho_Eritrean
1.7 BelgianA

Target: G25K13SimRyoHazuki
Distance: 0.0042% / 0.00424723 | R7P
36.0 Norway_IA.SG
20.4 Scotland_Viking.SG
12.1 Serbia_Sirmium_LateRoman.SG
9.7 Italy_South_C.SG
9.5 Wales_MBA
7.6 Wales_C_EBA
4.7 Bulgaria_LateAntiquity

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 0.0173% / 0.01730416 | R7P
30.1 Greenland_LateNorse.SG
21.5 Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG
21.1 Italy_North_BellBeaker_3
12.2 Czech_IA
7.6 Hungary_SouthTransdanubia_Eavar_2
5.4 Scotland_Viking.SG
2.1 Kenya_HyraxHill_PastoralN

**Grace O'Malley** · 04-27-2024, 04:34 AM

Original for ancients

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0098% / 0.00978000 | R7P
21.6 England_LIA_o
19.4 England_MBA_lowEEF
14.6 England_IA_EarlyMedieval
13.5 Italy_LA_o3CentralEuropean.SG
11.5 Scotland_Skye_IA.SG
10.9 Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG
8.5 France_Alsace_Lingolsheim_EBA

Removed Italy outliers

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0100% / 0.01004116 | R7P
19.3 England_LIA_o
18.1 Scotland_Viking.SG
16.3 England_IA_EarlyMedieval
14.7 Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG
12.3 France_Alsace_Lingolsheim_EBA
11.8 Scotland_Skye_IA.SG
7.5 England_EarlyMedieval_o

Then removed England outlier

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0106% / 0.01061946 | R7P
30.0 England_IA_EarlyMedieval
20.3 Scotland_Viking.SG
15.6 Netherlands_Friesland_Saxon_Medieval.SG
14.0 France_Alsace_Lingolsheim_EBA
10.4 Scotland_Skye_IA.SG
7.3 Czech_EBA_Starounetice
2.4 Italy_ReginaMargherita_BA.SG

For moderns

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0168% / 0.01679716 | R7P
49.1 Icelandic
42.4 Irish
6.4 Norwegian
1.4 Abkhasian_Gudauta
0.7 Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest

After removing Icelandic

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.0173% / 0.01731881 | R7P
59.8 Irish
27.0 Danish
13.2 Norwegian

**brunolord20** · 04-27-2024, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

Very nice mix!

try modern averages with chebyshev is good aswell but my result is with a little bit overfit in some pops

https://vahaduo.github.io/chebyshev/

**ScandinavianCelt** · 04-27-2024, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by brunolord20

try modern averages with chebyshev is good aswell but my result is with a little bit overfit in some pops

https://vahaduo.github.io/chebyshev/

I never use the chebyshev calc. Interesting. Thanks. I guess we cannot use it with R7P though.

Target: Brad_AncestryDNA_Scaled_Official
Chebyshev distance: 0.4967% / 0.00496663 | R5P
45.0 Scottish
25.2 Polish_Kashubian
17.2 Basque_Lower_Navarre
8.6 Tsez_B(North_Caucasus)
4.0 Brahmin_Telugu_Niyogi