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    Question This map shows the origins of your ancestors, and the origins of your language

    This map shows the origins of your ancestors, and the origins of your language.
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    If you realized that at the beginning there were not 8,000,000,000 people on earth. And since we were few in the beginning, and we all come from the same ancestors. You could see the route taken by your ancestors to the country where you are.

    This map only provides the route of the basic tribe, avoiding later migrations.

    This map only provides the route of the base language, evolving later influences.

    > If you want, edit the map in Paint, and add a thicker line over the lines drawn by me, then post the map here; to see what was the route taken by your ancestors.

    > What are the tribes closest to your tree branch? (what ethnicities, what languages?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indager View Post
    This map shows the origins of your ancestors, and the origins of your language.
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    If you realized that at the beginning there were not 8,000,000,000 people on earth. And since we were few in the beginning, and we all come from the same ancestors. You could see the route taken by your ancestors to the country where you are.

    This map only provides the route of the basic tribe, avoiding later migrations.

    This map only provides the route of the base language, evolving later influences.

    > If you want, edit the map in Paint, and add a thicker line over the lines drawn by me, then post the map here; to see what was the route taken by your ancestors.

    > What are the tribes closest to your tree branch? (what ethnicities, what languages?)
    It doesn't appear accurate as far as Irish at least.

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    Are there similarities between the Indian and German languages?

    Why?
    Do they have common origins or is it a late migration?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    It doesn't appear accurate as far as Irish at least.
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    The Irish could be a special branch that separated from the rest. He lived among Latins and Germans. In the middle of them. But the ancestors of the Irish will be the same as those of the Latins and Germans.

    They probably appeared as a union of tribes, when the Anatolian and steppe tribes met. That's probably what made them special. Instead, the tribes that did not unite remained those of the Latins and the Germans.

    Before that, they probably lived in the Middle East.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    It doesn't appear accurate as far as Irish at least.
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    These should be the basis. Excluding late migrations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indager View Post
    Irish Origin
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    The Irish could be a special branch that separated from the rest. He lived among Latins and Germans. In the middle of them. But the ancestors of the Irish will be the same as those of the Latins and Germans.

    They probably appeared as a union of tribes, when the Anatolian and steppe tribes met. That's probably what made them special. Instead, the tribes that did not unite remained those of the Latins and the Germans.

    Before that, they probably lived in the Middle East.

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    None of that is true or accurate. The Irish mostly descend from Bell Beakers which is why they genetically cluster in Northwestern Europe. How could they do that if they descend from the people above? No need to guess there are some good genetic studies. You can't make a population like the Irish out of Latins, Germans and Middle Easterners.

    They are one of the populations with the highest Steppe and this is due to them descending from Bell Beakers.

    Consistent with expectations 105,106 780 , Neolithic Anatolian related farmer ancestry is concentrated around the Mediterranean basin, with high levels in southern Europe, the Near East, and North Africa, including the Horn of Africa, but is less frequent in Northern Europe. This is in direct contrast to the Steppe-related ancestry, which is found in high levels in northern Europe, peaking in Ireland, Iceland, Norway, and Sweden, but decreases further south. There is also evidence for its spread into southern Asia. Overall, these results refine global patterns of spatial distributions of ancient ancestries amongst modern populations.
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...594v1.full.pdf

    Even where Irish cluster will tell anyone that has any understanding of genetics that the map you posted is inaccurate.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    None of that is true or accurate. The Irish mostly descend from Bell Beakers which is why they genetically cluster in Northwestern Europe. How could they do that if they descend from the people above? No need to guess there are some good genetic studies. You can't make a population like the Irish out of Latins, Germans and Middle Easterners.

    They are one of the populations with the highest Steppe and this is due to them descending from Bell Beakers.



    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...594v1.full.pdf

    Even where Irish cluster will tell anyone that has any understanding of genetics that the map you posted is inaccurate.

    Once again, because you probably didn't understand:

    In the beginning, there was not a single man in Europe.
    From a scientific, religious and logical point of view.
    Only if people appeared in Europe.

    Therefore:

    1) The Irish are descendants of the first tribes that migrated to Europe (leaving from the Middle East).
    2) The tribes that left the Middle East split into 2 different branches: One went to the Steppa, the other to Anatolia.
    3) The Steppe and Anatolian tribes will probably meet again, before there is even a single human in Ireland.
    4) Their meetings were different: Sometimes with war, other times with peace. In times of peace there could be (sex) between the Steppe and Anatolian tribes. Sex will be for pleasure (in peacetime) or rape (in wartime).
    5) After Sex, children with mixed descent appear: Steppo-Anatolian.
    6) People probably don't exist in Ireland yet.
    7) Only now are people leaving for Ireland.
    8) What people?
    9) Pure Steppe people (unmixed). (Tribe 1)
    10) The people of Anatolia are pure (unmixed). (Tribe 2)
    11) Mixed people (Steppa-Anatolia). (Tribe 3)
    12) The origin of the Irish will be from all these tribes.

    So what is wrong with what I said?

    13) The ancestors of the Irish are the same as those of the Latins and Germans.
    14) Initially they lived in the Middle East.

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    In Europe, one of the first mixtures between the Steppe people and those from Anatolia took place in Romania.
    So in Romania (or in the area of Romania) the real ancestors of the Irish appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indager View Post
    Once again, because you probably didn't understand:

    In the beginning, there was not a single man in Europe.
    From a scientific, religious and logical point of view.
    Only if people appeared in Europe.

    Therefore:

    1) The Irish are descendants of the first tribes that migrated to Europe (leaving from the Middle East).
    2) The tribes that left the Middle East split into 2 different branches: One went to the Steppa, the other to Anatolia.
    3) The Steppe and Anatolian tribes will probably meet again, before there is even a single human in Ireland.
    4) Their meetings were different: Sometimes with war, other times with peace. In times of peace there could be (sex) between the Steppe and Anatolian tribes. Sex will be for pleasure (in peacetime) or rape (in wartime).
    5) After Sex, children with mixed descent appear: Steppo-Anatolian.
    6) People probably don't exist in Ireland yet.
    7) Only now are people leaving for Ireland.
    8) What people?
    9) Pure Steppe people (unmixed). (Tribe 1)
    10) The people of Anatolia are pure (unmixed). (Tribe 2)
    11) Mixed people (Steppa-Anatolia). (Tribe 3)
    12) The origin of the Irish will be from all these tribes.

    So what is wrong with what I said?

    13) The ancestors of the Irish are the same as those of the Latins and Germans.
    14) Initially they lived in the Middle East.

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    In Europe, one of the first mixtures between the Steppe people and those from Anatolia took place in Romania.
    So in Romania (or in the area of Romania) the real ancestors of the Irish appear.
    No genetics study supports what you have said above. Also explain how the Irish have a high amount of Steppe from populations that don't have it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    No genetics study supports what you have said above. Also explain how the Irish have a high amount of Steppe from populations that don't have it?
    Then you think you are pure from the Steppe?
    Do you think that not even one single ancestor of yours came through Anatolia to the Balkans and to Ireland?
    From the beginning of the world until today, not even 1?

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