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    Quote Originally Posted by Bozkurt_Karabash View Post
    Indeed. Quite ironic some Hungarian clown here makes stupid comparisions between Turks looking like Arabs whereas our ancestros were "from Siberia" when he's pretty much a Central European with almost 0% Siberian blood that speaks a West Siberian tongue.

    Is not ironic?

    Is ridiculous to me to see Krauts and Slavs dressed as mongols and living in yurts.

    These people are dressed as their ancestors were dressed. It isn't a mongolic dress, but a nomad type dress, spread among all steppe populations, among them the Magyars. You are in no position to make ridiculing remarks on people who want to reconnect with their heritage, and old style of living. To be Hungarian is a spiritual and cultural identity foremost, but also contains a significant racial attribute. Today Hungarians cluster together by all these 3 factors, because they are genetically very close to each other, and racially White European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bozkurt_Karabash View Post
    Indeed. Quite ironic some Hungarian clown here makes stupid comparisions between Turks looking like Arabs whereas our ancestros were "from Siberia" when he's pretty much a Central European with almost 0% Siberian blood that speaks a West Siberian tongue.

    Is not ironic?

    Is ridiculous to me to see Krauts and Slavs dressed as mongols and living in yurts.

    Hey man, can you read that hungarian language are not west siberian tongue but it have russian origin or are you just a troll?

    Unfortunately these clothes are not so authentic, coz ancient magyars wore rather silk clothes or other type of wool clothes, not these rather siberian looking suits.

    From Osprey books:





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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagitta Hungarica View Post
    Lol. We have another go at it, this time from an Eesti troll.
    I'm not a troll.

    The closest linguistic relatives to the Hungarians are the Khanty and Mansi people, that's a fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by IVDEVS_AVGVSTVS View Post
    The Hungarian language - just like Finnish and Basque - is indigenous to Europe.
    Do you believe Kalevi Wiik's theory?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bozkurt_Karabash View Post
    Indeed. Quite ironic some Hungarian clown here makes stupid comparisions between Turks looking like Arabs whereas our ancestros were "from Siberia" when he's pretty much a Central European with almost 0% Siberian blood that speaks a West Siberian tongue.
    The Hungarians are not from Siberia nor do they speak a Siberian language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The closest linguistic relatives to the Hungarians are the Khanty and Mansi people, that's a fact.

    Unfortunately some people use to mix the linguistic relations with the biological relations. In this way germanics came from North-India, lol. Or Atlantis.

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    And now Finnics and Ugrians hate each other...



    Really, these pointless attacks against the Hungarians are quite boring. Magyars arrived from the European steppes and settled the westernmost steppe in Europe (Pannonia).
    When in Pannonia they mixed with the European peoples already there but retained the Magyar culture.

    I don't think it needs to be seen as anything more than this, Magyars were Europeans and settled amongst other Europeans, the steppes before the Turko-Mongol expansion were mainly Caucasian / white with the latter surviving in the European portion even after the Turks and Mongols had subjugated much of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    And now Finnics and Ugrians hate each other...



    Really, these pointless attacks against the Hungarians are quite boring. Magyars arrived from the European steppes and settled the westernmost steppe in Europe (Pannonia).
    When in Pannonia they mixed with the European peoples already there but retained the Magyar culture.

    I don't think it needs to be seen as anything more than this, Magyars were Europeans and settled amongst other Europeans, the steppes before the Turko-Mongol expansion were mainly Caucasian / white with the latter surviving in the European portion even after the Turks and Mongols had subjugated much of it.
    People need to remember that the Germanic and Celtic people were also on a "come and go" between Asia and Europe. Indeed the expansion of Turkic people from the Altaic region towards West changed the racial characteristics of Western Asia, which was predominantly White. The Bulgars, Magyars even Avars were White populations, but probably with some Turkic admixture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    And now Finnics and Ugrians hate each other...

    Interesting sentence. What are you feelings towards the Indians and the Gypsies? You are more related to Gypsies, from your Indo-European perspective, than I am to Hungarians.

    From your sentence, one would make out that we are as related as Northern-Italians and Southern-Italians.

    "Finnics" and "Ugrians" have as much to do with each other as you do with Indians.

    Us, Northern-Europeans, don't feel any relation to Hungarians or other Europeans in that region.

    Really, these pointless attacks against the Hungarians are quite boring. Magyars arrived from the European steppes and settled the westernmost steppe in Europe (Pannonia).
    When in Pannonia they mixed with the European peoples already there but retained the Magyar culture.
    No one has stated otherwise, read the original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Interesting sentence. What are you feelings towards the Indians and the Gypsies? You are more related to Gypsies, from your Indo-European perspective, than I am to Hungarians.

    From your sentence, one would make out that we are as related as Northern-Italians and Southern-Italians.

    "Finnics" and "Ugrians" have as much to do with each other as you do with Indians.

    Us, Northern-Europeans, don't feel any relation to Hungarians or other Europeans in that region.



    No one has stated otherwise, read the original post.
    Maybe Estonians don't but I know quite a few Finns do feel a relation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sagitta Hungarica View Post
    Maybe Estonians don't but I know quite a few Finns do feel a relation.
    They care even less about a "Finno-Ugric" unity, believe me.

    We come from 2 different branches of the Finno-Ugric family.

    If the Dutch feel no relation to the Indians, as the Dutch and the Indians descend from 2 different branches of the Indo-European family, then why should we be any different?

    I can't think of any similarities between us and you. Even your language sounds completely alien to my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    They care even less about a "Finno-Ugric" unity, believe me.

    We come from 2 different branches of the Finno-Ugric family.

    If the Dutch feel no relation to the Indians, as the Dutch and the Indians descend from 2 different branches of the Indo-European family, then why should we be any different?

    I can't think of any similarities between us and you. Even your language sounds completely alien to my ears.
    I knew personally Finn students who were in our country hugely interested in everything about our language, culture, so no need to continue generalizing.

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