View Poll Results: who is closer: Germans and Poles or Irish and French?

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  • both are about the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alice View Post
    Thanks for your response. That's sounds very feasible. There is also something a bit northern in Irish dna also because they plot a bit more northern than England even though England has more Germanic DNA. The Irish plot with Scots and Orcadians.
    I think that is probably due to the Irish DNA being formed under northern climatic conditions (hence the generally pale skin). After all, central Ireland is the same latitude as northern Germany.

    I meant to answer your other question about the Bretagne/Brythonic DNA being common to both Britain and Wales. Proportionally, it is actually more common in Wales (over 50%) than it is in Bretagne (about 40%) so there seem to be two possibilities:

    i) Migrating Britons took it to north-west France.
    ii) It was originally more common in Bretagne but later became partially eclipsed by the general French DNA while in Wales it was better preserved due to the mountainous terrain (= less gene-flow).

    I think the second theory is more likely.

    This info. I got from Wikipedia also gives food for thought:

    "The last centuries before the Roman invasion saw an influx of mixed Germanic-Celtic speaking refugees from Gaul (approximately modern day France and Belgium) known as the Belgae, who were displaced as the Roman Empire expanded around 50 BC. They settled along most of the coastline of Southern Britain between about 200 BC and AD 43, although it is hard to estimate what proportion of the population there they formed. A Gaulish tribe known as the Parisii, who had cultural links to the continent, appeared in Northeast England."

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    Germans and Poles

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    germans and poles

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    Irish and French.

    Even though I would like to see some distances calculated for each.

    My opinion is based on this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulu View Post
    Irish and French.

    Even though I would like to see some distances calculated for each.

    My opinion is based on this.

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    Distance to: German
    3.98302649 German_West
    5.19941343 Dutch_South
    5.23799580 Afrikaner
    5.35444675 Flemish
    5.69869283 Belgian
    6.05254492 German_South
    6.06348085 North_German
    6.17187168 German_Northwest
    6.82518864 Austrian
    6.82792062 French_Alsace
    7.10525158 Dutch
    7.36131102 English_Southeast
    7.70084411 Dutch_Central
    7.79365126 French_Northeast
    7.98844165 Pennsylvania_Dutch
    7.99364748 English_Midlands
    8.02219421 French_Northwest
    8.08093435 Swiss_German
    8.11462877 English
    8.23270308 Swiss_German2
    8.54027517 English_Southwest
    8.61322239 Dutch_North
    8.74772542 English_North
    8.78650670 Cornish
    8.98221576 Swedish
    9.20207585 German_East
    9.48705961 Welsh
    9.62590256 Denmark
    9.79926528 Orcadian
    9.93764057 Sweden_Götaland
    9.94726596 Scottish_Northeast
    9.99311263 Sweden_Svealand_West
    10.01042956 Scottish_East
    10.18848860 Norway_South_Central
    10.21422537 Icelandic
    10.21994129 Scottish_North_Highlands
    10.31965116 Norwegian
    10.36111480 Scottish
    10.56822596 Scottish_Southwest
    10.58509329 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
    10.77232101 Irish_Leinster
    10.89608645 Sweden_Svealand_East
    11.44456203 Swiss_French
    11.71878833 Irish
    11.80249126 Irish_Connacht
    11.81746166 French_Central
    11.99730386 West_Scottish
    12.27114909 Irish_Munster
    12.65883486 Irish_Ulster
    13.40140291 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest
    13.74697785 Czech
    13.89394472 Slovenian
    14.07941405 North-Swedish
    14.19628825 French
    14.31411890 Hungarian
    15.26167750 Croat_North
    15.49229486 Hungarian_North
    15.52640654 Hungarian_Alföld
    15.78381133 Slovak
    16.04521424 Italian_Aosta_Valley
    16.39827430 Hungarian_Transylvania+Székely
    16.76277125 Croat_West
    16.78257728 Csángó-Ceangău
    17.13599428 Croat
    17.43459492 Sorb_Lusatia
    18.86569373 French_South
    18.88586244 Croat_East
    18.98598957 Croat_South
    19.45259623 South_Polish
    19.60979092 Italian_Trentino
    19.79022739 Southwest_Finnish
    19.87012582 Ukrainian_Galicia
    19.98833410 Bosniak_Bosnia
    20.07391840 Serb_Serbia_West
    20.10938338 Ukrainian_Carpathian
    20.41557739 Serb_Croatia
    20.42214974 Romania_Moldavia_North
    20.44755976 Swiss-Italian2
    20.48038086 Polish_Masuria
    20.56742327 Serb_Bosnia
    20.58069727 Italian_Friuli_VG
    20.58898492 Bosniak
    20.61322876 Polish_Greater_Poland
    20.69456209 Spanish_Cataluna
    20.74167062 French_Provence
    20.77315094 Romania_Crisana
    20.84289567 Swiss_Italian
    21.04618255 Serb
    21.19691251 Serb_Serbia_Central
    21.23116813 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
    21.35209826 Romania_Maramures
    21.51381184 Spanish_Galicia
    21.72688657 Moldova_North
    21.78988756 Moldova_Centre
    21.88569853 Portuguese
    21.97464675 Serb_Herzegovina
    21.98960436 Polish_Lower_Silesia
    22.00422914 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
    22.07564722 Moldova_average
    22.17768248 Moldova_Ukrainian
    22.21990099 Southwest_French
    22.26821726 Romania_Transylvania
    22.29962107 Polish_Silesia
    22.41710062 Romania_Moldavia_South
    22.54129322 Polish


    Distance to: Irish

    0.66037868 Irish_Munster
    0.73334848 Irish_Connacht
    0.99463561 Irish_Ulster
    1.16700471 Irish_Leinster
    1.34014925 Scottish_Southwest
    1.49849925 Scottish
    1.66496246 West_Scottish
    1.71149058 Scottish_Gaidhealtachd
    1.76176048 Scottish_North_Highlands
    1.90423213 Scottish_East
    2.05121915 Scottish_Northeast
    2.69542204 Welsh
    3.02727600 Orcadian
    3.36096712 English_North
    3.94435039 Cornish
    4.05885452 English_Southwest
    4.19091875 English
    4.35504305 English_Midlands
    4.69804215 Icelandic
    5.06510612 English_Southeast
    5.18827524 Dutch_Central
    5.31892846 Dutch_North
    5.32381442 Dutch
    5.97585140 French_Northwest
    6.61496788 Norwegian
    6.75237736 German_Northwest
    6.81617195 Denmark
    7.26441326 Norway_South_Central
    7.54422296 Sweden_Götaland
    7.82382260 North_German
    8.39380128 Dutch_South
    9.15525532 Sweden_Svealand_West
    9.29368065 Flemish
    9.99471360 Belgian
    10.02400120 Swedish
    10.21637411 German_West
    10.33920693 Afrikaner
    11.71878833 German
    12.77266613 French_Northeast
    13.53048780 Sweden_Svealand_East
    13.94911108 German_South
    14.41359775 Pennsylvania_Dutch
    15.08385561 French_Alsace
    15.36757626 Swiss_German2
    16.06874917 Swiss_German
    16.25151685 French_Central
    17.50487361 French

    I don't understand how Serbs can be closer to Germans than Poles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
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    I don't understand how Serbs can be closer to Germans than Poles.
    It's an aggregate of elements. Serbs are mulattoes. Same as South Italians are close to Ashkenazis while being completely different. Slavs are a new amalgam to the old Europe which took shape before they arrived.

    I was right by the way.

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    both are about the same far from each other

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