Do you support an independent Kurdistan?

[Óttar]

Yes, I support an independent Kurdistan. From what I hear though, the Kurds are lazy. I'd like to see there be a place the Yezidis could go to escape Muslim oppression.

I don't like the Iranian government. But it is only a matter of time the younger generations in Iran rid themselves of that Arab-wannabe government. Then they can embrace Western values.

That "Green Revolution" or whatever was just Ayatollah-Lite. The guy they supported just looks like another typical Shia towelhead boob to me.

There are a lot of pro-Zoroastrian and secular Persian nationalists in Iran, but not enough certainly.

[Bozkurt_Karabash]

Nuking, killing is your priority.
Genetically those who call themselves now "Anatolian Turks" are mostly Armenian but they also have Afrikan/Asian admixures

How can we be mostly Armenian if our biggest centers of population were quite far from any Armenian reach? Asian admixture is evident but African admixture in Turk is 0. But then again you also have Arab admixture far higher than us Southwest Asian component at 11% hahahaha

but most importantly they don't uphold Armenian heritage/culture which was their along with our language which is estimated older than 8.500 years old first, before any invasion

We don't need Armenian culture. Keep your Armenian culture to the little land the Russians defended for you.

Also, not all Anatolian Turks are assimilated natives, many of them are kidnapped Armenians during Genocide, every single light skin/light hair/light eyed Armenian woman, girl and kid under 5 years were taken away from us

Makes no sense. Armenians are on average darker than us. Balkan kids were kidnapped only to train Jannisers. Not Armenians as they're lame warriors.

and women and gilrs used to breed Msulim Turkish kids and underage kids to be raised up as Muslim Turks with extreme hatred towards Armenians. which we witness now.

Nah, average Turk can do better than an Armenian woman.

Btw, what are your thoughts on 17 years old Turk killing Hrant Dink, journalist and owner of Armenian news agency "Agos" in Turkey who was put on trial accroding to Turkish article 301 (insulting Turkishness-i.e saying Genocie happened)), charged and eventually killed?

We don't need guilty feelings there. it weakens the soul of nations. Look how white Americans are now with guilt feelings toward slavery or germans with guilt feelings toward holocaust. We need none of that.

What do you think about that fact that killer shouted "I killed an infidel" afer shooting an honourable man to death? What do you think about jail guards taking a picture with killer in front of Turkish flag and praising him for killing an Armenian? what do you think on the fatc that 2 days ago Turkish court set free 19 out of 20charged on killings of Hrant Dink?
What do you think about the fact that Turkey changed geographical name Armenian Hihgland to Anatolia to take away our heritage from our pwn lands? On the fact that Turkey is deliberately destroying or renaming Armenian heritage to claim Armenians have never live there?

What do you think about Armenians being so wimpy at fighting they lost 90% of the territory? What do you thinks about Armenians losing the battle and not accepting it to the day? What do you think about thanking Russians that you still have a small piece o land? What do you think about the fact Armenian rebels attacked Turkoman civilians first? What do you think that we don't give a fuck about your cries because we won our place in battle? What do you think about the fact that most of Turkey (and Anatolia) is not in the Turkish highland? What do you think about the fact we were superior in battle and courage than you and we could have this big territory? What do you think that we showed our warrior spirit and reversed the treate of Sevres that was unjustly put over us?

[zack]

I don't believe so, that's a pipe dream. Iranians are extremists at heart, it's no wonder why Iran is one of the few Middle Eastern countries with a true Islamic law, even Armenia and Egypt are more Westernized/liberal than Iran. I wouldn't trust in them ever since they overthrew the Shah.

Can you blame them though? He was a US puppet

[Óttar]

Can you blame them though? He was a US puppet

He was also coronated in the ancient capital of Persepolis as a successor to the ancient Persian kings. He encouraged Iranians to name their children after Persian historical figures. He wanted to build the Iranian economy. He was nothing but a boon to that country. So he imprisoned some political opponents, but what the Ayatollah and his ilk did was much worse. Honestly, I think all the moneyed Persian champagne socialists and limousine liberals that protested the Shah's rule deserved exactly what they got afterwards... Stabbed in the back and imprisoned by the very Islamic zealots they helped bring into power.

[Fernando]

Can you blame them though? He was a US puppet

I certainly don't blame them (I would have done the same) but it seems that Iranians are generally hostile towards Americans. The hostage crisis was a very big deal to most people here. The Shah was also very anti-Islam and Iran would be much more modern and not fundamentalist had his reign continued.

[Nairi]

I simply cannot finish reading Bozkurt, and it is obviously pointless to try to communicte with him,I will simply present some facts for others to see and judge...

Armenian boys recruited to fight for Islam
Janissaries (Yanichars)

It was Sultan Murad (Murat) I (1359-1389) during the latter part of the Fourteenth century who transformed the Turkish army from mere plunderers into a regimented military organization. To bolster his army's strength Murad initiated a program to recruit young boys from Armenian and Greek families and developed them into a well trained, highly disciplined and coordinated militia and called it Janissaries (new soldiers). Each Armenian family was required to give its brightest son to be enlisted as a Janissary for the services of the Sultan, similar to the conscription of the Memluks from the Caucasus centuries earlier. The Janissaries were brought up as Moslems imbued with an unquestioned loyalty to the Sultan and became members of a privileged military elite. As fighters by avocation they lived their lives with uncompromising devotion to the cause of Islam. In times of peace they kept order and guarded the imperial palaces. In times of war their ferocious brutality proved to be vital for the conduct of the war.

http://www.armenian-history.com/mili..._for_Islam.htm

[zack]

I certainly don't blame them (I would have done the same) but it seems that Iranians are generally hostile towards Americans. The hostage crisis was a very big deal to most people here. The Shah was also very anti-Islam and Iran would be much more modern and not fundamentalist had his reign continued.

Yeah but the trade off would have been their sovereignty...

[Fernando]

Yeah but the trade off would have been their sovereignty...

True, but look at their country now. Women are oppressed, living under Islamic law, etc. I understand why they wouldn't want a puppet in charge however the alternative was much worse for them.

[Osweo]

Sevres would be a start. It's disgusting that Van isn't controlled by Armenians. And lop off a chunk of Iraq and Syria for the Kurds, so the shape of their new land isn't so stupid looking.

[Nairi]

Fernando thanked full of BS post of Bozkurt against Armenians lol well, another Mexican...

The full article called "An Unpopular History, White Slavery" is here

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38736





“Horrors of war”, Christian Armenian women enslaved by Turkish soldiers
Image: Paul Emile Boutigny, c. 1914