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Thread: Jews, who are they closer to: Germanics or Slavs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNKraut View Post
    Neither, they're semitic people. Their blood is alien to Europeans.
    Could be even alien to this world

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    If you're talking about "European" (Ashkenazi) Jews they cluster with S. Italians and the Maltese, although IMO they are often lighter and more Northern Looking than the aforementioned groups.

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    Blood haplotypes and genetics are a better indication of ancestry (they're dominant despite whatever phenotype). Phenotype is irrelevant.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_K_(mtDNA)

    http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/abstracts.html

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../genetics.html

    They aren't closer to either. Ashkenazi's are their own genetically isolated homogeneous group.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y-chromosomal_Aaron

    Jews are looking for more reasons to be genetically distinct pure and elite than any nordicists.

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    Neither

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hess View Post
    If you're talking about "European" (Ashkenazi) Jews they cluster with S. Italians and the Maltese, although IMO they are often lighter and more Northern Looking than the aforementioned groups.
    So Genotype not phenotype.

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    To nobody but themselves.

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    Both I guess, since Ashkenazim evolved in Central-Eastern Europe.

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    Very hard to say. Germanics for me but a lot of Jews from Slavic countries are very assimilated.

    I'd say Jews are more similar to Italians in terms of family, values and warmth though. Depends on the Jew though.
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    What a stupid thread. None of them. Southern Europeans if anything.

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    Dodecad Oracle K12b results of Ashkenazi Jews:

    DodecadOracle(c(2.8, 0.6, 4.2, 0, 25.1, 13.2, 1.3, 0.4, 12.8, 0.5, 39, 0),k=127)
    [,1] [,2]
    [1,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "0"
    [2,] "Ashkenazi_D" "1.8248"
    [3,] "Sicilian_D" "6.1514"
    [4,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "6.5383"
    [5,] "Sephardic_Jews" "8.8578"
    [6,] "Greek_D" "9.078"
    [7,] "Morocco_Jews" "12.8031"
    [8,] "C_Italian_D" "13.5477"
    [9,] "Cypriots" "15.5827"
    [10,] "O_Italian_D" "17.4333"
    [11,] "Tuscan" "17.9025"
    [12,] "Turkish_D" "18.9296"
    [13,] "TSI30" "19.4728"
    [14,] "Lebanese" "21.4156"
    [15,] "Turks" "21.9066"
    [16,] "Druze" "23.805"
    [17,] "Bulgarian_D" "24.5668"
    [18,] "Bulgarians_Y" "24.665"
    [19,] "Syrians" "24.735"
    [20,] "Jordanians" "25.6731"
    [21,] "Romanians" "26.421"
    [22,] "N_Italian_D" "26.5522"
    [23,] "Palestinian" "26.908"
    [24,] "North_Italian" "27.5764"
    [25,] "Uzbekistan_Jews" "27.7743"
    [26,] "Armenian_D" "28.6855"
    [27,] "Georgia_Jews" "28.7531"
    [28,] "Samaritians" "29.2602"
    [29,] "Iraq_Jews" "29.3379"
    [30,] "Assyrian_D" "29.3784"
    [31,] "Azerbaijan_Jews" "29.5745"
    [32,] "Armenians_15_Y" "29.8612"
    [33,] "Armenians" "30.6504"
    [34,] "Iranian_Jews" "31.1989"
    [35,] "Kumyks_Y" "31.5393"
    [36,] "Egyptans" "31.691"
    [37,] "Nogais_Y" "31.8152"
    [38,] "Kurds_Y" "32.7379"
    [39,] "Kurd_D" "33.3354"
    [40,] "Iranian_D" "33.6982"
    [41,] "Iranians" "35.5892"
    [42,] "Adygei" "35.933"
    [43,] "Balkars_Y" "36.1872"
    [44,] "Turkmens_Y" "36.4286"
    [45,] "North_Ossetians_Y" "37.0169"
    [46,] "Baleares_1KG" "37.042"
    [47,] "Canarias_1KG" "37.5781"
    [48,] "Chechens_Y" "37.7647"
    [49,] "Yemenese" "38.3286"
    [50,] "Galicia_1KG" "38.5051"
    [51,] "Bedouin" "38.5096"
    [52,] "Extremadura_1KG" "38.8348"
    [53,] "Murcia_1KG" "39.0442"
    [54,] "Portuguese_D" "39.0863"
    [55,] "Lezgins" "39.5084"
    [56,] "Andalucia_1KG" "39.7006"
    [57,] "Castilla_Y_Leon_1KG" "41.1618"
    [58,] "Spaniards" "42.0943"
    [59,] "Spanish_D" "42.9535"
    [60,] "Cataluna_1KG" "43.2757"
    [61,] "Hungarians" "43.3482"
    [62,] "Castilla_La_Mancha_1KG" "43.7549"
    [63,] "Algerian_D" "44.0118"
    [64,] "Valencia_1KG" "44.4297"
    [65,] "Abhkasians_Y" "44.5719"
    [66,] "Cantabria_1KG" "44.7376"
    [67,] "French" "44.7471"
    [68,] "French_D" "45.029"
    [69,] "Aragon_1KG" "45.3586"
    [70,] "Tajiks_Y" "45.9169"
    [71,] "Uzbeks" "46.8559"
    [72,] "Georgians" "47.4162"
    [73,] "German_D" "47.9959"
    [74,] "Yemen_Jews" "48.444"
    [75,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "49.3436"
    [76,] "Sardinian" "51.231"
    [77,] "Dutch_D" "51.3298"
    [78,] "Kent_1KG" "52.1156"
    [79,] "Bnei_Menashe_Jews" "52.3587"
    [80,] "CEU30" "52.6992"
    [81,] "English_D" "52.7228"
    [82,] "Uygur" "53.2533"
    [83,] "Cornwall_1KG" "53.4111"
    [84,] "Moroccan_D" "53.5623"
    [85,] "British_D" "54.1536"
    [86,] "British_Isles_D" "54.2386"
    [87,] "Hazara" "54.6536"
    [88,] "Argyll_1KG" "55.2765"
    [89,] "Moroccans" "55.4705"
    [90,] "Irish_D" "55.6737"
    [91,] "Ukranians_Y" "55.6758"
    [92,] "Orcadian" "56.0235"
    [93,] "Orkney_1KG" "56.2767"
    [94,] "Chuvashs" "57.3128"
    [95,] "Polish_D" "58.183"
    [96,] "Mixed_Slav_D" "59.0689"
    [97,] "Norwegian_D" "59.7258"
    [98,] "Swedish_D" "59.8196"
    [99,] "Pais_Vasco_1KG" "59.84"
    [100,] "Pathan" "60.3621"
    [101,] "Mordovians_Y" "60.596"
    [102,] "Russian_B" "61.4236"
    [103,] "Russian_D" "62.0663"
    [104,] "Belorussian" "62.1939"
    [105,] "Russian" "62.9443"
    [106,] "Burusho" "63.0983"
    [107,] "Saudis" "63.473"
    [108,] "French_Basque" "63.8212"
    [109,] "Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal_M" "65.4012"
    [110,] "Jatt_D" "66.8193"
    [111,] "Cochin_Jews" "67.474"
    [112,] "Lithuanian_D" "69.0865"
    [113,] "Altai" "69.5985"
    [114,] "Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh_M" "70.4053"
    [115,] "Sindhi" "71.1207"
    [116,] "Khasi_Ch" "71.787"
    [117,] "Mongol" "71.969"
    [118,] "Makrani" "71.9965"
    [119,] "Ethiopians" "72.6067"
    [120,] "Lithuanians" "73.0828"
    [121,] "FIN30" "73.187"
    [122,] "Burmanese_Ch" "73.6149"
    [123,] "Ethiopian_Jews" "74.0688"
    [124,] "Kshatriya_M" "74.1301"
    [125,] "Meena_M" "74.5538"
    [126,] "Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu_M" "74.6961"
    [127,] "Finnish_D" "74.8748"

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