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    Of course, jews are closer to germans

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    Neither we are closest to South Italians and Greek Islanders because we have a mixture of Southern European and Levantine admixture...

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    If a Jew has origins in Germanic areas the they should be closer to Germanics. If a Jew has origins in Slavic areas then they should be closer to Slavs. So Albert Einstein is closer to Germanics and Volodymyr Zelensky is closer to Slavics. If a Jew has origins in neither Slavic or Germanic origins then the answer would be neither most likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Admiral Thrawn View Post
    Neither we are closest to South Italians and Greek Islanders because we have a mixture of Southern European and Levantine admixture...
    You need a mirror since you have admixture of Anglosaxons.

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    South Slavs.
    Not all that far away from regional populations of Bulgarians.
    You need to update your post and be specific.
    I assume you're referring to Ashkenazi Jews?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beers View Post
    South Slavs.
    Not all that far away from regional populations of Bulgarians.
    You need to update your post and be specific.
    I assume you're referring to Ashkenazi Jews?
    Ashkenazi Jews would be closest to Eastern South Slavic speaking people genetically. But if we were just referring to the main Slavic speaking regions Ashkenazi Jews have lived in (Poland, Slovakia, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Russia) then we would be closer to Germanics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    Ashkenazi Jews would be closest to Eastern South Slavic speaking people genetically. But if we were just referring to the main Slavic speaking regions Ashkenazi Jews have lived in (Poland, Slovakia, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Russia) then we would be closer to Germanics
    But if we were just referring to the main Slavic speaking regions Ashkenazi Jews have lived in (Poland, Slovakia, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Russia) then we would be closer to Germanics
    We weren't though.
    Just a generic question about "Slavs" or "Germanics."
    Bulgarians are Slavs and have substantial genetic affinity with Ashkenazim, most on Eurogenes K15 will get Bulgarian in their top 20, German would be nearly unheard of, except for maybe a Dutch Jew.
    OP was so lazy in his wording he didn't even specify which Jewish ethnic group he was talking about.
    Ashkenazi Jews also have genetic affinity with Slavs in Macedonia.
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    Slavs!
    The Talmud tells us that the only language the Torah could be translated into elegantly is Greek.

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    I don't get Bulgarian in my top 20. I am an atypical Ashkenazi my ancestors are from France and Germany. I am West Mediterranean Shifted like Basque or Sardinian. This is my eurogenes k15

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 33.1
    2 Atlantic 16
    3 West_Med 14.33
    4 West_Asian 14.31
    5 Red_Sea 9.35
    6 North_Sea 5.71
    7 Baltic 4.37
    8 Northeast_African 2
    9 Oceanian 0.65
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.18

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Sephardic_Jewish 3.59
    2 Italian_Jewish 5.7
    3 Tunisian_Jewish 6.72
    4 Algerian_Jewish 6.78
    5 South_Italian 7.1
    6 East_Sicilian 8.08
    7 West_Sicilian 9.34
    8 Central_Greek 9.46
    9 Ashkenazi 9.59
    10 Italian_Abruzzo 10.22
    11 Libyan_Jewish 11.46
    12 Cyprian 11.55
    13 Lebanese_Muslim 13.91
    14 Greek 14.17
    15 Syrian 14.75
    16 Tuscan 15.62
    17 Greek_Thessaly 15.8
    18 Samaritan 16.57
    19 Jordanian 16.95
    20 Palestinian 17.37

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.9% Tunisian_Jewish + 38.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3
    2 96.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.6% La_Brana-1 @ 3.17
    3 69.4% Lebanese_Christian + 30.6% French_Basque @ 3.21
    4 96.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.8% North_German @ 3.21
    5 95.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 4.6% Austrian @ 3.22
    6 96.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.5% Irish @ 3.23
    7 97% Sephardic_Jewish + 3% Lithuanian @ 3.26
    8 86.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 13.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.26
    9 96.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.3% West_Scottish @ 3.26
    10 96.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.26
    11 96.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.2% Belorussian @ 3.26
    12 96.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.3% North_Dutch @ 3.27
    13 93.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 6.4% Bulgarian @ 3.27
    14 96.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.4% Southeast_English @ 3.28
    15 96.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.3% Danish @ 3.28
    16 94.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 5.7% Romanian @ 3.29
    17 96.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.2% Polish @ 3.29
    18 96.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 3.4% South_Polish @ 3.29
    19 97% Sephardic_Jewish + 3% Swedish @ 3.3
    20 97.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 2.9% Estonian @ 3.3

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 33.10
    2 Atlantic 16.00
    3 West_Med 14.33
    4 West_Asian 14.31
    5 Red_Sea 9.35
    6 North_Sea 5.71
    7 Baltic 4.37
    8 Northeast_African 2.00


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.040009
    2 Italian_Jewish @ 6.510955
    3 Algerian_Jewish @ 7.532079
    4 Tunisian_Jewish @ 7.589525
    5 South_Italian @ 7.850949
    6 East_Sicilian @ 9.350009
    7 West_Sicilian @ 10.734038
    8 Central_Greek @ 10.783353
    9 Ashkenazi @ 11.226350
    10 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.779237
    11 Libyan_Jewish @ 12.998297
    12 Cyprian @ 13.493432
    13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.189249
    14 Greek @ 16.192961
    15 Syrian @ 16.955540
    16 Tuscan @ 18.117277
    17 Greek_Thessaly @ 18.251823
    18 Jordanian @ 19.068029
    19 Samaritan @ 19.374660
    20 Palestinian @ 19.865898

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +50% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.033722


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Lebanese_Muslim +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.482538


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Cyprian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Palestinian @ 3.059813
    2 French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Muslim + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.123092
    3 Cyprian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian @ 3.157969
    4 Cyprian + French_Basque + Jordanian + Lebanese_Christian @ 3.170305
    5 French_Basque + Iranian_Jewish + Samaritan + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.174835
    6 French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.190039
    7 French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 3.212113
    8 French_Basque + Kurdish_Jewish + Samaritan + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.285576
    9 French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze + Syrian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.293800
    10 Bedouin + Cyprian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.294242
    11 French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Muslim + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.300837
    12 Cyprian + French_Basque + Jordanian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.317326
    13 Cyprian + French_Basque + Palestinian + Samaritan @ 3.322499
    14 French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Palestinian + Samaritan @ 3.324084
    15 French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Lebanese_Muslim + Samaritan @ 3.336797
    16 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Muslim + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.363807
    17 French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + Syrian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.378372
    18 Cyprian + French_Basque + Jordanian + Samaritan @ 3.388321
    19 Lebanese_Muslim + Samaritan + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.389733
    20 French_Basque + Iranian_Jewish + Lebanese_Christian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.397044

    This is me on Eurogenes K13

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 43.45
    2 West_Med 19.36
    3 North_Atlantic 14.91
    4 West_Asian 9.83
    5 Red_Sea 6.16
    6 Baltic 3.68
    7 Northeast_African 0.98
    8 Oceanian 0.67
    9 East_Asian 0.49
    10 Sub-Saharan 0.46

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_Jewish 4.98
    2 Sephardic_Jewish 7.07
    3 Algerian_Jewish 7.17
    4 Tunisian_Jewish 7.33
    5 Libyan_Jewish 8.74
    6 Ashkenazi 9.67
    7 South_Italian 11.71
    8 Cyprian 12.46
    9 East_Sicilian 13.18
    10 West_Sicilian 14.58
    11 Central_Greek 14.65
    12 Samaritan 16.12
    13 Lebanese_Druze 16.37
    14 Italian_Abruzzo 16.43
    15 Lebanese_Muslim 16.57
    16 Lebanese_Christian 17.12
    17 Palestinian 17.47
    18 Syrian 18.13
    19 Jordanian 18.72
    20 Greek_Thessaly 19.73

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 85.7% Italian_Jewish + 14.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.22
    2 93.5% Italian_Jewish + 6.5% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.54
    3 89.6% Italian_Jewish + 10.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.59
    4 90.8% Italian_Jewish + 9.2% Samaritan @ 4.72
    5 92.6% Italian_Jewish + 7.4% Palestinian @ 4.79
    6 96.5% Italian_Jewish + 3.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.9
    7 93.3% Italian_Jewish + 6.7% Cyprian @ 4.91
    8 97.1% Italian_Jewish + 2.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.93
    9 96.3% Italian_Jewish + 3.7% Jordanian @ 4.93
    10 97.9% Italian_Jewish + 2.1% Saudi @ 4.93
    11 89.8% Italian_Jewish + 10.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.94
    12 97.2% Italian_Jewish + 2.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.95
    13 98.1% Italian_Jewish + 1.9% Egyptian @ 4.96
    14 98.5% Italian_Jewish + 1.5% Assyrian @ 4.96
    15 99.4% Italian_Jewish + 0.6% Bedouin @ 4.97
    16 100% Italian_Jewish + 0% Syrian @ 4.98
    17 100% Italian_Jewish + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.98
    18 100% Italian_Jewish + 0% Adygei @ 4.98
    19 100% Italian_Jewish + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.98
    20 100% Italian_Jewish + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.98

    I think the East Med sucked up some West Asian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown European View Post
    I don't get Bulgarian in my top 20. I am an atypical Ashkenazi my ancestors are from France and Germany. I am West Mediterranean Shifted like Basque or Sardinian
    9 Ashkenazi @ 11.226350
    Thank you for posting your "atypical" alleged full Ashkenazi results to make NO point whatsoever about a TYPICAL Ashkenazi kit.

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