Iran to burn...It's looking a little obvious

[Supreme American]

Rescuing Dutch citizens during the early days of the Libyan revolution. The mission was a fuck-up.

It's okay. Look what Jimmy Carter did.

[Osweo]

Your French example is one that was actually triggered by pointless do-gooder crap in the first place. The sort of patronising attitude shown to the Moors there is obviously going to rile them up. Try again. Get some interviews on Youtube or whatever where some fucker in a loincloth is asked about the Europeans.

[The Lawspeaker]

It's okay. Look what Jimmy Carter did.

Compared to that.. ours was a minor fuck-up.

[Joe McCarthy]

Your French example is one that was actually triggered by pointless do-gooder crap in the first place. The sort of patronising attitude shown to the Moors there is obviously going to rile them up. Try again. Get some interviews on Youtube or whatever where some fucker in a loincloth is asked about the Europeans.

Assuming such a trog could even express an informed opinion at all it'd probably be informed by this, and even it sees colonialism as negative, if somewhat nuanced.

[Siberyak]

Let America go after Iran. Hopefully it will enrage Americans when they are paying for it at the gas pump. Our debt is already through the roof. Maybe then Americans will then stop caring about sports and must see T.V. I personally would love to see this current government toppled by protests

[StonyArabia]

In no small part due to the secular dictator the West helped put into and keep in power. Let's face it - Iraq never would have been that way left to its own devices. It would be a backward, illiterate shithole like the rest of the Middle East that doesn't have Western ties.

Iraq was never supported by the West, and it had no friends. Not at all Iraq was most advanced nation as well secularized in the Middle East, it had th best infrastructure and medicine in the region, as well thy did not need the help of the West. It's was just the government took few Western ideas to help in advancing the nation. The rulers of Iraq were always not liked by the West, and he was only supported during the war with Iran, and to confine it's influence.

Lobbing scud missiles at Israel didn't help Saddam in the least, and neither did his stockpiling chemical weapons. At that point he revealed that he's not reliable enough and is a destabilizing element. Afghanistan's issue was harboring al Qaida.

Well it certainly has a lot due with Israel, but the main factor was Saddam represented a threat, because the Iraqis would have annexed Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and the other sheikhdoms present whom are weak and demographically to small to defend themselvs against Iraq, and the oil would be nationalized, which the Americans don't want. Afghanistan is a geopolitical strategic nation and it has one of the worlds largest natural gas reserves, so it all comes down to resources and $$$$.

Propping up Islamist militias with ties to Iran? If anyone's doing that, it's Iran. I'm sure the Coalition forces have tried to work with them in the sense that they are part of the Iraqi political scene. The US has also accused Iran of arming local groups.

It was well known that political parties like Hazb Al-Dawa was considered as terrorist organization, and this party has now been revoked from that status after 2003 and is seen an ally, and the same is true of the SCRI party anothr Islamist party with strong ties to Iran. Iran has a role in Iraq of course but it was the Americans who made Iran into a regional power, by giving Islamist parties and militas power.

Uhm yeah we can tell them to shove it. I don't care where Western soldiers put their pee-pees, that doesn't make the product of their behavior wards of the United States or any other Western nation, any more than it did when GIs knocked up southern Vietnamese hookers. Being of an American father does not obligate Americans to take them in like orphaned brats. I don't know what you're going on about.

Those children have right to know their fathers, and where they come from. Yes they are the responsibility of America and a legacy as well byproduct of the war. Those children are not brats they have had no choice how they were formed. However besides those who are born from wedlock, their many Americans who brought their Iraqi wives and children to the U.S.

As I said, there will be no "war" with Iran - all we have to do is bomb the nuke sites, which we should have done back during the Reagan years. This ground war crap is a bunch of media/government propaganda hysteria and nothing more.

This is also unrealistic, and I don't think it needs an explantion to why that is.

[2DREZQ]

Iraq was never supported by the West, and it had no friends. Not at all Iraq was most advanced nation as well secularized in the Middle East, it had th best infrastructure and medicine in the region, as well thy did not need the help of the West. It's was just the government took few Western ideas to help in advancing the nation. The rulers of Iraq were always not liked by the West, and he was only supported during the war with Iran, and to confine it's influence.

Interesting;

Where are all the shrill voices who were screaming at us that the U.S. put Saddam in power? Telling us the we supplied him with the materials that he used to make chemical weapons? That he was a U.S. puppet who we discarded when he was no longer useful?

Well it certainly has a lot due with Israel, but the main factor was Saddam represented a threat, because the Iraqis would have annexed Kuwait and Saudi Arabia and the other sheikhdoms present whom are weak and demographically to small to defend themselvs against Iraq, and the oil would be nationalized, which the Americans don't want.

It is about oil. It always has been. Nobody would care otherwise.

Afghanistan is a geopolitical strategic nation and it has one of the worlds largest natural gas reserves, so it all comes down to resources and $$$$.

And whom do you think is going to extract that oil? Hmmmm? The Afghan's? They couldn't muster a fraction of the capital needed to exploit any fossil fuels they may have. And if anyone tried, the other tribes would start a fight and blow shit up and kill people because they weren't getting the money. The Russians might have been able to ruthlessly suppress the tribes (if the U.S. didn't "encourage" the opposition) to extract the oil, but it would have been damn expensive oil.

Iran has a role in Iraq of course but it was the Americans who made Iran into a regional power, by giving Islamist parties and militas power.

We did so by the simple expedient of reducing their only regional rival to a shattered vassal to the American Empire.

Those children have right to know their fathers, and where they come from. Yes they are the responsibility of America and a legacy as well byproduct of the war. Those children are not brats they have had no choice how they were formed.

Rights? You are advocating for the rights of minors? Fine. We will just file that away for now. Just remember; more Apricity members are injured by being hoist by their own petard than by any other means.

This is also unrealistic, and I don't think it needs an explantion to why that is.

Uhmmm... Yes. Yes it DOES need an explanation. Can you do that?

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