Arbanasi - Albanians in Croatia

[Duke]

Slavic?!...you said that Croatians are not slavic people

Seriously, their surnames are slavic because thay are asimilated albanians, but they know exatly who they are and don't deny it.

Slavic is a language, and Croats are Slavic, i never denied that.
Still, first settlers had common Croatian names, and surnames, sufix or not they are Croatian surnames, and quite common.

BTW where did they get the suffix, those are Venetian records of first settlers

[Adrian]

Slavic is a language, and Croats are Slavic, i never denied that.
Still, first settlers had common Croatian names, and surnames, sufix or not they are Croatian surnames, and quite common.

BTW where did they get the suffix, those are Venetian records of first settlers

Suffix may be from the Byzantine period. At that time Albanians were mainly Orthodox and some of them were assimilated by Slavic people. There are a few surnames without suffix, too.

[Duke]

Suffix may be from the Byzantine period. At that time Albanians were mainly Orthodox and some of them were assimilated by Slavic people. There are a few surnames without suffix, too.

But these surnames are spread all over Croatia, and Croats, as well as Arbanas are/were Catholic.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Their language is bit of Turkish, mixed with some standard Croatian, and mostly Dalmatian dialect

Govor u zadarskim Arbanasima arhaična je mješavina nastala pri susretu uglavnom gegskog narječja s jezicima nove domovine. Listajući Rječnik govora zadarskih Arbanasa dr. Krune Krstića nailazi se na riječi različitog podrijetla. Imamo tako turski adet (običaj), aferim (živ bio!), caush (glasnik čauš), coshe (kut), dimie (dimije), fishek (fišek), gajtan (pletena vrpca), gjuvegi (mladenac).
Dalmatinske su riječi: brushki (četka), buculaj (slatki kolač), but (bačva), butig (dućan), butir (maslac), carz (vunena suknja), cat (vrsta dinje), cerod (voštano platno), cimatorje (groblje), cakull (brbljanje, "ćakula"), damizhon (pletenka, "demižon"), denjat (udostojiti se), deshperat (očajavati), dizhgrocje (nesreća), dogan (carinarnica), dret (ravno), duzin (tuce, "duzina"), faculet (rubac), fang (mulj), fashat (poviti), forc (snaga), fortun (nevrijeme, "fortunal"), fregat (ribati), fumat (pušiti), fundac (talog kave), gabju (krletka), garbu (ugljen), gorn (oluk) itd.
Kao primjer posuđivanja iz hrvatskog jezika navodi se: brutulic (kosirić za branje), bunor (bunar), corët (slijep), did (djed), dimnjok (dimnjak), ditel (djetelina), divlo (divlji), dobi (dobitak), dumboko (dubok), gaxua (kazati), gerc (grč), gerzat (ugristi), grabi (otimačina), gusël (gusle).
»Arbanasi govore i hrvatski«, piše don Mijo Ćurković, »istom onom lakoćom kao i arbanaški, ali ga ne govore pravilno. Imade ih i koji znadu i talijanski, a težaci ga razumiju, ali ga ne umiju govoriti. Arbanasi su rimokatoličke vjere i tvrdi katolici. Nije se nigda čulo da je u Varoši bilo inovjeraca, nit da se je koja djevojka udala za inovjerca. Arbanas ne znade nego za arbanašku narodnost. On je po vjeri katolik«.

[Adrian]

But these surnames are spread all over Croatia, and Croats, as well as Arbanas are/were Catholic.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Why Lol?

I said during Byzantine Emipre albanians were mainly orthodox and it doesn't meand all of them were orthodox. Arebreshes in Croatia and Italy belonged to Chatolic religion as well as Ghegs in Albania.

[Duke]

Why Lol?

I said during Byzantine Emipre albanians were mainly orthodox and it doesn't meand all of them were orthodox. Arebreshes in Croatia and Italy belonged to Chatolic religion as well as Ghegs in Albania.

But their language is basically Dalmatian dialect, spoken not only in Arbanasi, but over whole Dalmatia, and even Istria has similar one

[Adrian]

Their language is bit of Turkish, mixed with some standard Croatian, and mostly Dalmatian dialect

No, their language is pure albanian and doesn't have anything turkish on it. Thay use turkish words as much as serbians, bulgarians, montenegrins and albanians use.

Duke, I have to go now. I will bring a lot of materials and famous arbereshes that contributed a lot for Croatia...and you didn't recognise them till now. Same like that arberesh singer.

[Duke]

No, their language is pure albanian and doesn't have anything turkish on it. Thay use turkish word as much as you, serbians, bulgarians, montenegrins and albanians use.

I know, i listed turkish words they used from the article, but their language is dalmatian dialect.

[Duke]

Duke, I have to go now. I will bring a lot of materials and famous arbereshes that contributed a lot for Croatia...and you didn't recognise them till now. Same like that arberesh singer.

He is not Šiptar lol, he is Croat

[Adrian]

But their language is basically Dalmatian dialect, spoken not only in Arbanasi, but over whole Dalmatia, and even Istria has similar one

Of course thay speak Dalmatian dialect. There is nothing to be surprised.

He is not Šiptar lol, he is Croat

Ok, if you say so! lol

Duke, thay know better that you and me who thay are.

[Duke]

Of course thay speak Dalmatian dialect. There is nothing to be surprised.


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No, their language is same as dalmatian dialect, with a bit of variation, but still understandable