Armenian Military

[Mosov]

Hungarian nationalists are pro-Turkey, pro-Iran, and anti-Israel.

Hungarian nationalists like Magyar support the Turkish nationalists that preach about Great Turan. Those are the Kemalist nationalists that are in bed with Zionists, and those nationalists are anti-Iran. So it just doesn't add up.

[Armin]

I'm not pro-Turkey. However, the current geopolitical situation precludes a US-Russia rapprochement due to Vladimir Putin. As long as that situation exists we'd be unwise to dump Turkey as an ally. They should remain outside of the EU though, and any military aggression on their part of the sort Saddam conducted in Kuwait should be met with force, and will be.

Btw, while Hungarians have a history of resisting the Ottomans, they also collaborated a good bit.

What you are implying by the above is that you want to see Russia be subservient and docile to US foreign policy. It is not going to happen Joe. Russia is a power in her own right and has a right to also conduct her own foreign policy as she sees fit. This kind of "big stick" policy is quite outdated in today's geopolitical reality. It has been this adventurist US expansion in trying to "expand" her sphere of influence that has caused a Russian reaction of formulating a tougher foreign policy in dealing with the encroachment. It is also this same US foreign policy that has driven Russia to seek closer alliance with entities like China, something that in my opinion is not in the long term interests of Europe.

[Joe McCarthy]

Hungarian nationalists like Magyar support the Turkish nationalists that preach about Great Turan. Those are the Kemalist nationalists that are in bed with Zionists, and those nationalists are anti-Iran. So it just doesn't add up.

Take a look at this:

http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik_news/europe/3198.html

[Insuperable]

This magyar guy is retarded

[Joe McCarthy]

What you are implying by the above is that you want to see Russia be subservient and docile to US foreign policy. It is not going to happen Joe. Russia is a power in her own right and has a right to also conduct her own foreign policy as she sees fit. This kind of "big stick" policy is quite outdated in today's geopolitical reality. It has been this adventurist US expansion in trying to "expand" her sphere of influence that has caused a Russian reaction of formulating a tougher foreign policy in dealing with the encroachment. It is also this same US foreign policy that has driven Russia to seek closer alliance with entities like China, something that in my opinion is not in the long term interests of Europe.

If the Russians wish to get along with the US, they will have to stop assisting Syria, Sudan, Venezuela, stop arming China, etc. They have continued doing this even after Obama reached out to them. If Russia wants to be a Western state, it'll have to start acting like one, not promising the Chinese it'll go to war to assist China if we respond to Chinese aggression against Taiwan.

The only 'encroachment' has been to assist democratic movements that aren't subservient to the Putinist mafia state and incorporating scared European countries into NATO that rightly fear Russian aggression.

[Armin]

If the Russians wish to get along with the US, they will have to stop assisting Syria, Sudan, Venezuela, stop arming China, etc. They have continued doing this even after Obama reached out to them. If Russia wants to be a Western state, it'll have to start acting like one, not promising the Chinese it'll go to war to assist China if we respond to Chinese aggression against Taiwan.

This is nothing compared to the meddling that US does in so many countries across the globe, having some one thousand military bases in more than one hundred countries.

The only 'encroachment' has been to assist democratic movements that aren't subservient to the Putinist mafia state and incorporating scared European countries into NATO that rightly fear Russian aggression.

"Democratic movements." Come on Joe, maybe you can get away with that one in a class in some middle school. Please do not insult the intelligence of the forum members here. It is a calculated, shrewd policy based on promotion of US interests (which first and foremost has to do with securing and controlling the natural resources of the given countries) and nothing less than that.

[Mosov]

Take a look at this:

http://www.jobbik.com/jobbik_news/europe/3198.html

So basically they are anti-European preaching their "Eastern origins" and are also supportive of pro-Zionist Turkic nationalists....these people are really confused.

[Magyar the Conqueror]

So basically they are anti-European preaching their "Eastern origins" and are also supportive of pro-Zionist Turkic nationalists....these people are really confused.

What IS this????!!!

ZIONISM!?!?

STOP SPREADING LIES AND BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA!

And stop trolling.

[Mosov]

What IS this????!!!

ZIONISM!?!?

STOP SPREADING LIES AND BULLSHIT PROPAGANDA!

And stop trolling.

It's not BS. You seriously denying that Kemalist Turks are close with Zionists? lol

Stop supporting Turkic nationalists then, because they are in bed with Zionists. So by supporting them you are supporting Zionists.

[Joe McCarthy]

This is nothing compared to the meddling that US does in so many countries across the globe, having some one thousand military bases in more than one hundred countries.



"Democratic movements." Come on Joe, maybe you can get away with that one in a class in some middle school. Please do not insult the intelligence of the forum members here. It is a calculated, shrewd policy based on promotion of US interests (which first and foremost has to do with securing and controlling the natural resources of the given countries) and nothing less than that.

You can believe this nonsense all you wish, but the reality is that as long as Russia acts as it does, the current strategic alignments will remain as they are, and that can only be bad for Armenia.

Rather than bitching at the US for not accepting Russia's culture of corruption and support of rogue states, Armenians should be concentrating on trying to ameliorate Putin's anti-American policies. Until that happens nothing will change.