hair/eye color and phenotype

**Jarl** · 07-12-2009, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by Cythraul

I think we should just exterminate any European who has melanin.

Yeah! Cast them all into a flaming pit. Goddamn swarthies!

Originally Posted by Folkstorm

I've read green eyes can be Celtic and Germanic.

Any North Euro can have green eyes (just like brown). Particularly green-grey or green-blue. However, they seem to be most common among Poles and Lithuanians (about 20% and over).

Originally Posted by Jägerzen

That doesn't look blue to me.

It's definitely light-mixed, but not pure blue (16-15) nor pure grey (14-13). Looks like grey-green. Most likely 10 or 11 on the Martin's scale. You basically get a light, grey or teal-like iris with small pigmented aureola. From distance the colours blend and the eye appears light green.

**Tabiti** · 07-12-2009, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jarl

Yeah! Cast them all into a flaming pit. Goddamn swarthies!

Long live the true Aryans - the Albinos!

**Vargtand** · 07-12-2009, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Wat Tyler

The thing with green eyes is how to define it.

You have people who will say only the purest green is green, and others will consider any colour in-between.

Wikipedia also went on to show this photo of a green eye.

Which to me is blue. That is my daughters eye colour, and I classify her as having blue eyes.

EDIT: Just checked. Hers are ever so slightly darker in hue.

If you call that blue what do you call this?

**Tabiti** · 07-12-2009, 09:56 PM

"Dark gray"?

**Vargtand** · 07-12-2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Tabiti

"Dark gray"?

Hehe, maybe, there is some blue and green in there as well, but yeah I got very dark eyes. People are always surprised I don't have brown eyes. According to my mother when I was young they were pitch black.

Jägerstaffel · 07-13-2009, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Sarmata

It's rather blue-mixed, I read once that such "brown" area around pupil means that some of ancestors(parents) had brown eyes

I don't know. It would have to be way back in my genes as most of my family has blue eyes.

I think the ring is orange and not brown anyways, but apparently colours are subjective!

**~~Beorn~~** · 07-13-2009, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by Jägerzen

colours are subjective!

They bloody well are, I tell you!

**Zankapfel** · 07-13-2009, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by Tabiti

Green eyes are more "eastern" as a whole, imo.
On the other hand, 90% of the so called green eyes are just mixed types with blue, gray, yellow or hazel shades.

Yes indeed.

^ Green eyes by yours truely.
Had never heard green eyes are Nordic btw.

**jerney** · 07-13-2009, 01:18 AM

I've always thought my brother's eyes were pretty non-mixed green.

**Jarl** · 07-13-2009, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by jerney

I've always thought my brother's eyes were pretty non-mixed green.

I do not think there is anything in the world like "non-mixed" green eyes or pure green eyes. In fact, I am certain of it as there is no "green" pigment human eye can produce. The only one which it can takes on all shades of yellow and brown.

I bet if you took a nice, high-resulotion, close-up pic of your brother's eyes, (like that by Vargtand or Jägerzen) we would surely notice a yellow or brown pigment.

Originally Posted by Vargtand

If you call that blue what do you call this?

I'd stick to what Tabiti said. There are traces of light brown pigment, radiating from the pupil and the whole of iris appears dark grey. So I'd stick to dark-mixed, which is 8-9 on the Martin's scale. Most likely 9, as you can clearly see the grey-blue iris, while at 8th degree you usually get dark green eyes.