The Effects of the West On Africa and the World

[SwordoftheVistula]

Do any of these countries even pay off their debts?

Africa obviously needs someone else to run the place if they are ever going to function as anything much more than a hunter-gatherer society, now they are bringing in Chinese to do the jobs whites used to do.

[Albion]

We should show them how to sink wells, irrigate their land, plant desertification buffer strips (see Chinese example), desalinate water and grow proper staple crops.
Oh wait, we already did that. Maybe we should teach them to listen as well.

How to get and clean water, grow food and how to make the land productive - that's all we should teach them. They can work their way up from there.

[Grumpy Cat]

The handouts given to Africa by do-gooders in the West have done more to hurt Africa than help it. They've made people dependent on these handouts. As a result, local farmers are going broke because people would rather get food from UN food drops than buy it from them, this making them dependent on handouts.

What is being done in Africa, is only appropriate in times of war, drought, or other kinds of disaster, as a temporary solution... not just all the time.

And don't get me started about religious groups down there. AIDS is spreading like wildfire and they're drilling it into peoples' heads that condoms are evil. Come off of it!

[Magister Eckhart]

I think all of this talk about what the evil West is doing to Africa ignores the millennium and more of history where the African natives accomplished nothing, built nothing, established nothing, and lived as utterly degenerate savages. Africa is the way Africa is because Africa has always been that way. The only time there was ever any civilization is under direct European rule.

If hand-outs to Africa were the source of evil for Africans, why is it that among all former colonies, Africa is the most run down? We bleed money into other former colonies, too, and they were all able to stand up on their own two feet and make something of themselves; just look at the Commonwealth nations from 1948 to the present.

No, indeed, foreign aid to Africa bleeds us dry and accomplishes nothing - this is undeniable and true, but it certainly does the Africans no harm; it hurts only us, and does nothing for the Negroes who are completely incapable of accomplishing anything without foreign intervention (proven by the Semitic influence on Great Zimbabwe and Mali).

To put it in a blunt but accurate metaphor, one has to gather the chimps in a room of typewriters before one can expect them to produce Shakespeare, and even then there's a better chance they'll just end up hurling faeces around the room and hurting themselves on the typewriters.

In fairness, a post script might be fitting to comment that the Ethiopians have always seemed to do far better than any other Sub-Saharan Africans up until they imported Marxism and Western liberalism. In this regard alone can we say the West did damage in Africa.

[Grumpy Cat]

My criticism wasn't against the "Evil West" but against dumb "liberals" (as you call them in the States).

[Magister Eckhart]

My criticism wasn't against the "Evil West" but against dumb "liberals" (as you call them in the States).

What idiot Americans call "liberals" are really Social Democrats; but I think you'll find that actual Liberals also seems to support the notion of foreign aid, however strange it may seem. All people on the left seem to support it, and I don't really know why.

Either way, the influence of Western liberalism and socialism on Africa, what has been more or less conveyed here as the evils of Western involvement in Africa, I just feel is misplaced.