Middle Class Children Are More Clever.

[Beorn]

Is generally more important than the money...

Yes, of course, to a degree, but what I should have said is the career and money are one and the same.
You won't find many middle class people working in what are working class jobs. They simply do not fit and are found out quickly enough.

I can tell you a few incidents of that in my line of work.

...but one who has taken the time to learn how to behave but has little money will be more accepted

True and untrue.

My nan is working class to the bone and has no money and lots of manners, but she was never "accepted" by the middle class circles she used to frequent.

Partly, I suppose, by her area code, house and previous job and means.

[Alison]

That's sad.

[Lulletje Rozewater]

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The only time you can pry people away from their materialistic, arsehole induced fanaticism is when you go against the grain of accepted thought and dare to say that perhaps, just perhaps this might all be wrong.

I must admit that I had to think long and hard of my personal experiences.
Sex in the beginning is the same for all women,it peters out when the fun is gone and babies set in or a woman wants a replacement for more and different experiences.Middle class has nothing to do with in my opinion.

If one has to make a class difference I think it is the opinions.

I remember a town "Pietersburg",at one stage 70 percent of the women were divorced.High class-middle class-lower class...............And all complained about the men.( I was the only man allowed at their "ladies night"I was a gentleman on the prowl(which they did not know)
What surprised me is the opinions of which there were basically 2.
1.In love-sex to ones hearts delight-marry-babies-out of love-divorce-growing up kids had problems and under-achievers(not all)
2 Love. I can best describe it with an example a lower class woman(married) told me.
Love is like a golf-ball,no matter how hard you hit it and in what bad circumstances ,it will not crack,that is why my kids perform at school.I had no large pocket money to hand out too.

I reckon it is a question of the "foundation"

To go against the grain is not a bad attitude

[SwordoftheVistula]

Britain appears to have a more hereditary-stratified class system than other western countries, so I can see this as being more likely there than other places.

Funny that this can get published in a major newspaper with less hysterical objection than if they had claimed IQ differences along racial lines-or perhaps 'working class' is being used as code for 'minority'.

I think if people use their hands or their brains to work, then they're pretty much working-class."

Isn't that everyone who actually holds a job?

[Tabiti]

Yes, I know that by personal observations. I don't know many people bellow the average financial level, because I've always looking for friends from my class, but ones I knew had intellectual level under the average. So, that's the end of the story about the decent, quite intelligent poor people.
In the case, according to myself, the family atmosphere is what matters for developing children IQ. Poorer families here often tend to be quite materialistic and envoius, let their children to grow up on the streets, teach them only the money values and that children from better families are spoilt and bad.
For few years in my childhood it happened to live next to industry workers block. Had many, many problems with their children hate (note: they took drugs since 3th grade) - stealing, insults, not letting other normal children on certain places, because that were "their territory" and so on and so one. Most of them were quite ugly, semi-intelligent and unmature (just like their parents).