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    Quote Originally Posted by Bornoz View Post
    Are still Christian?
    However you like it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nassbean View Post
    Well that's why I'm agnostic because I also experienced something similar but it's still not an evidence of anything because If I tell my story to a muslim he will say "jinn", to a christian "demon" , to a chaman in siberia "bad spirit", etc
    Thats what lucifer (fallen angel of light, or the devil) wants them and you to believe.
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    Because i found logic.
    Logic doesn't supports atheism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hàkon View Post
    Never got a proper response; you were never an atheist.
    The fact that the conclusions of researchers do not necessarily make individuals less convinced of the opposite view is nothing new; you disregard that feelings, thoughts, sensations and events in the environment not only are experienced as they are, but are also attributed a meaning based on the frames of reference (values, subconscious beliefs etc.) that the individual has.

    (This is basic cognitive psychology. Additionally, keep in mind that you were religious and raised in such a home.)


    Different types of thought errors (cognitive bias) tend to bring individuals to rather note things that are in line with what they are convinced to have experienced and/ or know, while conflicting information (explanations) does not influence the interpretation processes.

    The supernatural experience is the result of a process of interpretation that is often characterized by an inner conviction.

    Spoiler!


    That is to say; I believe you trust what you think you experienced, but that is not reality.
    Keeping everything you have written in mind; this is my rather general answer, for (personal) details are not very relevant.


    First, it isn't very plausible to suppose that you are not colored by your upbringing and previous experiences; whilst scientists, trained in objective thinking, cannot be truly objective and thus avoid cognitive bias.

    We are a “Connect the Dots” species; we are not critical thinkers by nature, we are hardwired to believe; succumbing to it is natural, and to disregard and forget conflicting facts is how we work.

    So, however satisfactory they might seem, your words and idea of how it and what happened is not sufficient and thus not believable; in order to exclude it being something neurological and purely natural, you have to prove it is in fact not neurological and purely natural.

    To clarify, when establishing valid facts, one does not initially adopt the stance that what is stated is true; the postulate is false until proven to be valid, by withstanding inquiry.

    That is where your claim, as well as the “evidence” pointing to the existence of paranormal entities, inter alia, is lacking.


    Now, the lack of proof against your claim, which is mainly argued to be due to the “technical inability” to denounce it, does not endorse the existence of anything paranormal; it is far more rational to assume that what you experienced is the workings of your brain along with the natural occurrences of living in a fairly old building.


    Naturally, if the claim one day is proven to be fact and thus becomes generally accepted, I too will embrace it; that is the open-mindedness of science.


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    No wonder why you never got a proper response, since your comment is full of dishonest rubbish.
    Is is not through "facts" and "reality" that our brains should work in order to come close to good conclusions but through logic, calculations and such.
    It is even ironic you talking of brains when you obviously don't even know what brains are for and seens to have problems managing your own one.
    Mentioning academicians is also authority appeal and don't increase the veracity of your affirmations at any degree.
    If he ever was atheist or not, doesn't matters, it also doesn't affect his argumenation.
    Come on, there is no need for all this. Humbleness alone is a much more satisfatory than spend your life time to try to prove something you know you never will just because you can't forgive some bad experience with religious people, my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hàkon View Post
    Never got a proper response; you were never an atheist.
    I was an atheist. And I can tell you that your argumentation is 100% wrong. Which is quite sad for such an intelligent female. I hope your eyes will open when the time is right for you.
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    ^ Having known him for the last decade - I can confirm that he used to be an atheist. But I think that a lot of people are leftie or atheist or both when they are young.



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    You cannot leave atheism in principle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy View Post
    You cannot leave atheism in principle.
    Well, when you find spirituallity after being atheist it's usually the easiest way to express it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joso View Post
    Because i found logic.
    Logic doesn't supports atheism.
    More like logic does not support religion, but each to its own ...

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