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    Kurgan Types from Fatyanovo (~3000 BC, when Aryans were still one people):



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    Romanian of pure Kurgan Nordic type (long faced, convex nose variety)
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    Another Romanian of pure Kurgan type (short faced, straight nose variety)
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    Fatyanovo people are Corded Ware/Battle Axes, not Kurgans. Here are 2 brand new reconstructions of Kurgan (Yamnaya) people from South Ural (2nd half of the 3rd millenium BC).






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    Quote Originally Posted by Austrvegr View Post
    Fatyanovo people are Corded Ware/Battle Axes, not Kurgans. Here are 2 brand new reconstructions of Kurgan (Yamnaya) people from South Ural (2nd half of the 3rd millenium BC).





    Same ethnic group (Aryan), same culture (including kurgan burial), same racial type (proto-Nordic). Thanks for your addition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by aherne View Post
    Kurgan Types from Fatyanovo (~3000 BC, when Aryans were still one people):


    Those are not the Kurgan Types, at least if narrowing it down, like Austrvegr said it, but Corded people and their relatives.

    They were more Nordoid/Nordo-Mediterranid than the classic early Kurgan-/Ochre grave/Yamnaya variants from the Ukraine and Southern Russia on average.

    So while there are similarities, if talking about a "Kurgan type" this is not the same as "Corded type", because the first being more Cromagnid influenced relatively, while the latter more Nordo-Mediterranid.

    The basic elements are similar and many overlap, but still, Kurgan type should be rather reserved, in my opinion, for the more progressive-refined Cromagnoids with Nordo-Mediterranid tendencies we find primarily in the steppe-Indo-Europeans and early Kurgan cultures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agrippa View Post
    Kurgan type should be rather reserved, in my opinion, for the more progressive-refined Cromagnoids with Nordo-Mediterranid tendencies we find primarily in the steppe-Indo-Europeans and early Kurgan cultures.
    i.e. The linguistic ancestors of the Scythians, Persians, Sogdians, Tajiks, Hindus and Tokharians. I would like to ask how much of this type survived in the classical period of these (before they were mostly absorbed by the natives), and what changes they went through in this time and along their respective migrations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osweo View Post
    i.e. The linguistic ancestors of the Scythians, Persians, Sogdians, Tajiks, Hindus and Tokharians. I would like to ask how much of this type survived in the classical period of these (before they were mostly absorbed by the natives), and what changes they went through in this time and along their respective migrations?
    Well, from what I know about them, they were not all the same, but the successive waves and different groups showed also differences.

    The earlist groups of unknown ethnicity were in some areas very Cromagnid, in others rather Nordo-Mediterranid already, many in between.

    From the Scythians we know that many were most typical for the transitional variants, with the Nordo-Mediterranid element becoming more dominant over time.

    The early Sarmatians now show huge differences, far from being homogenous, they have also Taurid and Cromagno-Alpinoid/Borreby-like, possibly slight Mongoloid influences in some tribes, were pred. Nordo-Mediterranoid again like the Alans.

    So talking about those Steppe-Indo-Europeans, they themselves were never a single block it seems, especially in later times, when they became mixed with other people and/or differentiated regionally, after social strata and ethnic groups, but they still were mostly of the same types as practically all early Indo-Europeans: Nordoid, Cromagnid, Mediterranid, in later times with other influences (especially Dinaroid/Dinaro-Cromagno-Alpinoid, occasionally Mongoloid) in specific groups like some Sarmatians tribes etc.

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    Interesting, now can we have some pictures of the kurgan type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagnaLaurentia View Post
    Interesting, now can we have some pictures of the kurgan type?
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