Ancient Romans/Italics and modern central Italians phenotypes

[Foxy]

The Italic look.

I won't discuss what is central Italy politically speaking. Anthropologically central Italy:



I and some other Italian users share the opinion that central Italy has an own look, very close to that of ancient Romans and ancient Italics.

Please, post examples.

[Peyrol]

I quote my post from the other thread

A Roma città è difficile e non credo, anche perchè vi si sono stabiliti, dal medioevo ad oggi, coloni e famiglie da tutta l'Europa Cristiana, cioè persone provenienti in un areale che va dall'antico Medio Oriente preislamico alle Isole Britanniche.

Credo comunque che nel resto del Lazio molti siano effettivamente simili alle antiche popolazioni...tipico poi è il naso "romano" e la linea sopracciglia-naso-labbra-mento....come ad esempio Tiberio Timperi.

I would also put other examples like Totti or De Rossi (their features are very "classic")

[Foxy]

I think that very typically central Italian female features are these:




1.dinarized-alpine-med
2. dinarized-atlanto med
for the most

Tiberio Timperi really looks CI

[Peyrol]

Typical latial/latin nose: Prince Pio Filippani Ronconi

[Foxy]

I think that the stereotyped Roman nose is Caesar's nose, but not everyone in central Italy has his nose.

An other "romanid" from Abruzzo

[Peyrol]

Cannavaro, for example, is southerner (Napoli) but has a very central look.

[Foxy]

I think that in general central Italians have less alpinid features than Cannavaro. Imagine him brunette: he would be typically Neapolitan.
Fair central Italians look more like this:



I am not surprised that to play a blonde Roman soldier in Cinecittà they choosed Kevin Mc Kidd



he could pass (although he's a bit too fair)... but a baltid certanly couldn't.

[exceeder]

I think that in general central Italians have less alpinid features than Cannavaro. Imagine him brunette: he would be typically Neapolitan.
Fair central Italians look more like this:



I am not surprised that to play a blonde Roman soldier in Cinecittà they choosed Kevin Mc Kidd



he could pass (although he's a bit too fair)... but a baltid certanly couldn't.

Not that the show is necessarily a reflection of reality but I remember a scene where Kevin Mckidd's character is promoting himself as a politician to the roman public and a man scorns him as being some kind of 'northern foreigner or barbarian...' something like that, to which Mckidd's character replies that he knows his appearance isnt 'typical for a roman and he looks foreign but he is a tax paying self respecting roman like everyone else, etc.' (again something to that effect, I havent seen the show in a couple of years). Just thought it was an interesting anecdote since you brought up his pic.

[Artek]

Various Atlantoid-Dinaroid-Nordoid-Alpinoid-Med inviduals.

[King Fingolfin]

Not that the show is necessarily a reflection of reality but I remember a scene where Kevin Mckidd's character is promoting himself as a politician to the roman public and a man scorns him as being some kind of 'northern foreigner or barbarian...' something like that, to which Mckidd's character replies that he knows his appearance isnt 'typical for a roman and he looks foreign but he is a tax paying self respecting roman like everyone else, etc.' (again something to that effect, I havent seen the show in a couple of years). Just thought it was an interesting anecdote since you brought up his pic.

Certainly he's fairer than standard old Romans, but it doesn't means his look was and is absolutely uncommon both among ancient Romans/Latins and among modern people from Center-Italy. Morphologically Kevin McKidd's features are like those of some busts of Julius Caesar: just change his blue eyes and blond hair with brown eyes and hair together with a slight more dinaricized nose and you'll find in McKidd a very resemble Caesar. Moreover there is a well-know fair old Roman: the famous Publius Cornelius Sulla. He's described by his contemporary, the historian Sallust, as a man with a ruddy skin, blond-reddish hair and blue eyes. Nobody among ancient Roman regarded him as a foreign for those features, that means, even if not very common, nevertheless they were not totally uncommon.