Thanks Loki

[Nairi]

There is not much that can be done about it. Tough luck.



They have the right to say it but they damn well better back it up. There is also another weapon that can be used under Dutch law which does not negate the freedom of speech. Smaad.

There is a lot what can be done,hate speech should not be confused with a freedom of speech and should be punished since all their backing up are false.

[The Lawspeaker]

So you care only about Dutch.

Exactly.

Your greatest problem with Armenians was the law drawn by French ? lol It has nothing to do with the Dutch and wasn't passed. Congratulations! You are free of any obligations. Live happily ever after. End !

If it could have happened in France then it would have happened here too. That's how things in the EU tend to work: precedence. That's how slowly but surely our democratic values and institutions are being killed off. While the EU as an institution sucks us dry and where the money goes ? We will never know.

[The Lawspeaker]

There is a lot what can be done,hate speech should not be confused with a freedom of speech and should be punished since all their backing up are false.

You don't understand the principle. Hate speech is a purely subjective thing. What is hate speech for one could be fact for the other. And that's why freedom of speech is such an important value.

Let me give an example. If one would say:

Another damned Turk is standing in my way.

It could be classified as hate speech. While it is merely an observation that indeed another damned Turk is standing in the speaker's way.

Or:

The Prime Minister is reported to have been involved in an embezzlement case.

Ah.. governments would just to love to call that hate speech.

[Nairi]

You don't understand the principle. Hate speech is a purely subjective thing. What is hate speech for one could be fact for the other. And that's why freedom of speech is such an important value.

There is a very thin line between freedom of speech and hate speech which Turks use for their benefits to deny, falsify and appropriate our heritage.

Freedom of speech should not give opportunity for all the above.When it does it is called hate speech.

[The Lawspeaker]

There is a very thin line between freedom of speech and censorship

FIXED. And it should not be crossed.

[HamshenaHay]

So you care only about Dutch. Care as much as you want. Who prohibits you? A discussion with someone who does not understand the difference between an Armenian and Moroccan is a discussion with someone from the planet Mars. You would make a great globalist by the way

Your greatest problem with Armenians was the law drawn by French ? lol It has nothing to do with the Dutch and wasn't passed. Congratulations! You are free of any obligations. Live happily ever after. End !

We just have differences of interpreting the events, because of different backgrounds, knowledge etc... But I believe he is sincere about freedom of speech and so are others here like Hess. There is no harm in that and should even be praised, especially by Armenians here. Don't get cried away with your emotions about the Genocide We're all here proponents of great values. It's just that we have different experiences and see many parallels in the events unfolding. Freedom of speech is a great value as long as it doesn't turn into freedom of verbal and psychological abuse. This is where we differ maybe because of our backgrounds. But that cannot be changed, the best thing we must do is try to see things from different perspectives. Because in the end we all love freedom.

[HamshenaHay]

FIXED. And it should not be crossed.

Great we agree!!!! YESSS do I sense the end of this annoying topic???

[Loki]

Freedom of speech should not give opportunity for all the above.When it does it is called hate speech.

Freedom of expression is non-negotiable on this website.

However, hate speech is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Any such, please report to staff using the "report bad post" function and staff will consider and deal with it.

[Nairi]

FIXED. And it should not be crossed.

Should not be crossed when it comes to openly stating which minority commits which crimes instead of regarding it as hate speech and covering up the truth with so called political correctness.

And all lies about AG should be classified as hate speech instead of calling it freedom of speech, it's kind of messed up in Europe, hate crimes from Middle Eastern Muslims/Turks towards Europeans are covered because all of a sudden it is a hate speech if you tell what they are doing but they are allowed to say whatever they want even if it is a lie and incites hatred.