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    Quote Originally Posted by Æmeric View Post
    The US has not had an effective death penalty for nearly 50-years. It use to be an excellent deterrent. But then there started to be countless court challenges to the dealth penalty for all sorts of frivolous reasons. If someone is given the dealth penalty you can count of endless appeals that will take years to work their ways through the courts. In reality the appeals have nothing to do with guilt or innocence but are simply attacks on the death penalty, the same appeals process would not take place in cases of life-without-parole.
    Yeah I read the whole process can take years over there and when it does finally get to the time there's last minute appeals for clemency and all that.
    The majority of murder victims in the US are of persons-of-color, usually committed by the same. Many of these cases are simply not solved because there are no witnesses or witnesses will not come forward.
    It's the same over here, the majority of murders are related to gangland crime and they're hardly ever solved because people are afraid to come forward.
    I am in favor of the death penalty for murder, treason & certain cases of rape & child rape.
    I probably should have added earlier on that I have no problem with people being hanged for treason because that is a crime against the nation and the entire population.
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    Whether the death penalty is a detterent or not, it gets rid of scum. I would expand it beyond just capital murder. I would also have it for rape and child molestation. It would also be done in the most harsh way possible. I wouldn't do any of this lethal injection crap. It would also be done swiftly. It's ridiculous that it takes over a decade for death row prisoners to finally get executed.

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    I am pro the death penalty. I know it's not a deterrent, but at least the perp can't hurt anyone else.

    In south Africa, we have people released early to commit some heinous crime THE SAME DAY!

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    For it.

    1, It does decrease crime at least slightly, there are people who do them because they know that not much will happen to them if they get caught.

    2, As said before, the dead won't kill anyone else after getting outta jail.

    3, It would take less funds from the state. No need to feed them, no need for so many guards to keep them in, etc.

    However, judgements for capital punishment should not be rushed by all means, not every kind of murder is the same, for example.

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    Absolutely against it, unless you want to give the government (i.e. plutocrats) more power.

    What else do we have lynchings for?

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    I am also against it. I don't think it should be up to the government to decide whether to take someone's life or not. The thought of it horrifies me, it is barbaric.

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    The thought doesn't horrify me at all. We appoint a government because they fit what we think they will do for the will of the people.

    The fact remains that people who abuse and rape tiny babies and children are released because of a lack of evidence, sometimes sentenced, despite positive DNA etc. Crooked cops, crooked and inept PPs. and the people walk to commit the same crimes again.

    There are people out there who have commited the worst crimes and are walking free, doing it over and over again.

    I understand your fears about governments, but what would we do without them? Without a judiciary; a police force?

    I know that I'd be a vigilante because I'd get away with it, and string the perps up as quickly as possible. Then again, I am coming at this from a mother side. I hate anyone who hurts children. I would target them.

    NO. Hang the bastards! Get rid of society's rubbish.

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    Alison, I have sympathy for that point of view in the South African context -- where violent crime is totally out of control, and strong measures have to be taken. Europe is a different matter though.

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    Loki, yes, I am coming at the issue from a SAn POV, because it is scary here. Sometimes I just want to switch off; not read newspapers, listen to the TV, hear the news on radio, because it is VERY brutal.

    I was one of the first to say we must get rid of the death penalty in SA. I hated it because it was mostly political. However, it's not like that now.

    I can't describe the fear and frustration and pain ordinary citizens feel who are targeted all the time.

    That woman (Indian) who was beaten for an hour, an HOUR, the other day; pools of blood, her being raped; screams and begging for mercy. I still feel sickened. They had a spade and a panga. A spade and a panga to attack a helpless woman.

    No, they do not deserve to live.

    It's different if it's a burglary and they are surprised and run from the scene. Nope, they made sure she was in the house BEFORE they broke in so they could inflict as much pain and injury as possible. Sadistic bastards. they MUST die.

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    I think we should distinguish between the death penalty as a government institution, and violent death as fitting punishment for horrible crimes.

    While I find the former to be horrendous, I'm in favour of the latter.

    I trust no government with the ability to decide who to put to death. However, I would support, for example, the right of parents of pedophiles' victims to go after the monsters and kill them.


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