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    Default Ancestral Homeland in Western Armenia

    Western Armenia is a vast area of the Armenian Highlands which dwarfs present day Armenia. Anything which contributes to our understanding of Western Armenia is welcomed here.

    With stories, pictures, videos, and personal accounts, we can paint a panorama for the legacy of our Armenian Ancestors in Western Armenia. A discussion of historical, political, and spiritual elements of Western Armenia is also welcomed. Here we can share our personal legacy to the cities and regions where our ancestors once lived, until they and their memories perished in the massacres and final Young Turk genocide, which we call the Armenian Genocide (1915-1923).

    Is it possible that Armenians again will live, breath and sing in The Armenian Highlands, of Western Armenia? I do not have the answer to that question. As incredible as it may seem, even more remarkable miracles have come true. Give it time, and many unbelievable things can come true. It would be justice, to see Armenian Children playing in the homes of their ancestors.

    Ghostly Armenian Voices sing in the very sound of the water that splashes on the stones of the Armenian Highlands of Western Armenian. Ghostly Armenian faces are carved into the stones of the ancient ruins. Alas, Western Armenia is now a living monument for Armenians who perished for living in their ancient homeland. The Turkish Flag curls in the wind, above the very streets, where Armenian Children once roamed the streets, but those children found death, their bones bleached in the sun rays of the landscape.

    Kurds use the monastic ruins, where Armenian Priests once prayed, as grazing grounds for their cattle. They call it Kurdistan, without grasping the violation of the territorial integrity of Armenia, by modern day Turkey. A well orchestrated Turkish strategy of genocide, first saw to it that all Armenians were banished from Western Armenian, during the days of the Young Turks; and, with the founding of the Republic of Modern Turkey, the work of genocide continues, with the neglect and destruction of Armenian Historic Landmarks.

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    Before they opened a farm in Fresno, California, my maternal grandparents came from the city of Moush, also called Muş, or Mush (and pronounced as Moosh). Moush, in the region of Sassoun, West of Lake Van, was an Armenian City located in the heart of Ancient Armenian Civilization. David of Sassoun, was a Legendary Armenian Hero, from sagas of lore, who defeated the enemies of Armenia, without fail.

    This video of Moush shows Armenians in Moush, as well as interesting views of the city and surrounding countryside. One interesting photo shows the public baths in Moush. The Armenians in this video were photographed by Bodil Catherine Biorn, a Norweigian Missionary, who lived in Moush, not long before many of them were murdered in the Armenian Genocide.

    [YOUTUBE]IXiP-vEPEJQ[/YOUTUBE]
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    This YouTube Video documents the Turkish Government's deliberate work to Destroy Armenian Historical Landmarks in Moush, and the surrounding area. Most of the Armenian Historic Landmarks neglected or destroyed by the Turks, included Churches, Monasteries, Cemeteries, and Armenian Settlements, including Ancient Armenian Cities reduced to ruins.

    [YOUTUBE]rzcrEKOYexw[/YOUTUBE]

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    Ffs, Armenians start fights with kurds when their real enemies are Turks . Us KURDS do not deny that Armenians lived ALONGSIDE Kurds.

    Kurds are : Hurrian + Mede
    Armenians are : Hurrian + something else, I forgot what. I'll find it l8r

    The land that I call "North Kurdistan" is also the land of hurrians which includes Armenians.

    I have never denied the FACT the land we call Kurdish has also beautiful history of Armenia.
    Hurria must unite once more to avoid bloodshed between Armenians and Kurds.

    Please bro, don't post something like this again for the sake of avoiding hatred between us.

    God be with you

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    The Armenian Constantinople in Turkish-occupied Armenian Highlands

    Ani (Armenian: Անի)[1][2] is a ruined and uninhabited medieval Armenian city-site situated in the Turkish province of Kars, near the border with Armenia. It was once the capital of a medieval Armenian kingdom that covered much of present day Armenia and eastern Turkey. The city is located on a triangular site, visually dramatic and naturally defensive, protected on its eastern side by the ravine of the Akhurian River and on its western side by the Bostanlar or Tzaghkotzadzor valley. The Akhurian is a branch of the Araks River and forms part of the current border between Turkey and Armenia. Called the "City of 1001 Churches,"[3] Ani stood on various trade routes and its many religious buildings, palaces, and fortifications were amongst the most technically and artistically advanced structures in the world.[4][5]

    At its height, Ani had a population of 100,000–200,000 people and was the rival of Constantinople, Baghdad and Cairo.[6] Long ago renowned for its splendor and magnificence, Ani has been abandoned and largely forgotten for centuries.[2][7]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thraex View Post
    The Armenian Constantinople in Turkish-occupied Armenian Highlands
    Wrong. Armenia renounced all claims to eastern Turkey and accepted the currently defined borders as per international law when it signed (and ratified) the treaty of Kars with Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyresic View Post
    Wrong. Armenia renounced all claims to eastern Turkey and accepted the currently defined borders as per international law when it signed (and ratified) the treaty of Kars with Turkey.
    I am afraid you are wrong my friend.

    The current Armenian state says that these agreements has been signed when Armenia was a Soviet state and they currently deny these agreements by saying that it was Moscow who signed these, not Armenia. Armenia is the one and only state in the world who doesn't recognize the borders of Turkey and they still officially call eastern Turkey as "western Armenia".

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    Can you post maps?

    Who lives there now? Turks or Kurds or both?
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Can you post maps?

    Who lives there now? Turks or Kurds or both?

    People claim different numbers, but since 20-23% of Turkey is Kurdish, and the Kurdish homeland is not in the West of the country, I'll give you 3 guesses to what percentage of Eastern/Southeastern Turkey is predominately Kurdish...





    "Western Armenia"
    書堂개 삼 년에 풍월 읊는다

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post
    People claim different numbers, but since 20-23% of Turkey is Kurdish, and the Kurdish homeland is not in the West of the country, I'll give you 3 guesses to what percentage of Eastern/Southeastern Turkey is predominately Kurdish...

    Interesting I didn't realise Turkey collects data of the Kurdish population in their official censuses. I also never realised that Kurds were distributed all over Armenia and make up between 30 and 75% of the total population in parts of northern Armenia, northeast Turkey and south Georgia despite the fact that Armenians make up about 98% of the population of Armenia.


    Quote Originally Posted by Scholarios Chiotis View Post


    "Western Armenia"
    19th century political ideas were funny.
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