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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus albus View Post
    But in Catholic countries the veil is just part of the folklore, traditional clothing in rural aereas, while in Islamic countries it is worn in a religous context and even in some nations mandatory.
    It is also a religious implementation in Christianity, read the Biblical verse I posted. Many Christians don't follow what the Bible preaches, only a few such as the Amish in Pennsylvania. If you go to their community the women are dressed very modestly with a bonnet or some covering on their head:


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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepulp View Post
    I don't know if they want to wear it but how can they be a real Christian and criticize the practice when it is a part of Christian teachings. Many Christians are not aware of their own religions teachings.
    Yes, they are hypocritical, but in Christianity wearing the veil is a symbol of submission to the man and has nothing to do with modesty. They hate because they don't have a man to be submissive to.

    They project their insecurities onto Muslim women. Because in their mind, all Muslim women who wear the veil have a man that they are submissive to. This is why they always bitch about that "a man made the Muslim woman wear the veil". And they're jealous that they can't have this themselves.

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    Honestly, I think women look more elegant in head covering. Much better than dressing in a vulgar manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
    mary you wear the niqab as an orthodx?
    Yes, I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosov View Post
    Honestly, I think women look more elegant in head covering. Much better than dressing in a vulgar manner.
    i agreee.when i see pics of my grandma as young...she looks so elegant and beautiful in it
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    Technically it was also not proper for women to shorten their hair or wear jeans/trousers
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    Up until the 1960s it was common if not universal practice for women to wear some kind of headcovering at least in church - whether Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant. That practice has mostly changed. But in any case it was quite different from Islamic hijab.

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    Thank you for the background, orangepulp! I guess most Christians barely know anything about the book whose guidelines they claim to follow. I believe religion is a very personal thing, and one everyone should respect, as long as it does not cause the alienation of certain liberties from other individuals. I personally have no problem with those who choose to wear the veil. If they feel that by doing so they are being true to what they believe in, then they really should do it. It is just something that should not be condoned or promoted, it is merely a personal choice. And I think that people who are honest with themselves about their beliefs are most noble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odoacer View Post
    Up until the 1960s it was common if not universal practice for women to wear some kind of headcovering at least in church - whether Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant. That practice has mostly changed. But in any case it was quite different from Islamic hijab.
    yes i think it was different too. also it was never common to wear the burqa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by orangepulp View Post
    It is also a religious implementation in Christianity, read the Biblical verse I posted. Many Christians don't follow what the Bible preaches, only a few such as the Amish in Pennsylvania. If you go to their community the women are dressed very modestly with a bonnet or some covering on their head:




    You sound quite orthodox and conservative in your approach to religious manners, which I will respect, although I find it a bit backwards. The problem with the orthodox and conservative types today is that they find they are special, because they are so traditional, which leads to all kinds of pretensiousness and self-righteousness.


    I think that its fine to think one way is better than the other, but the way things have been interpreted in the modern era is that a more liberal and subjective approach to religion is good. This has been done because there was a need to update and get out of old types of useless and outdated mentalities.


    I think conservative minded people come with a mentality that is too fixiated to the meaning behind religious symbols. They should realize the dynamic forces of nature that operate behind the veil of reality, and not depend on a stinking dogmatic code for their customs and practices.


    I find dogma to be hypocritical and vain in so many different ways, and its good religion has been secularized and liberalized in some ways. That is because in the mind its rather subjective for people how they practice it, which is even seen to some degree in the more conservative and orthodox forms of religion.

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