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    I think that directness and no-nonsense speech is the hallmark of a free, open and egalitarian society. There is no beating around the bush here and you're expected to say what's on your mind with few reservations and beating around the bush is considered rude, hypocritical.. as if you have secrets.



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    I need to move to the Netherlands. This is one thing I HATE about my own countrymen, especially the English-speaking majority. It makes me paranoid, distrustful of people, and causes me a great deal of anxiety and depression.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood View Post
    I need to move to the Netherlands. This is one thing I HATE about my countrymen, especially the English-speaking majority. It makes me paranoid and causes me a great deal of anxiety.
    Remember that I told you that that I felt a bit sceptical of the true intentions of people when I was in England ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    Remember that I told you that that I felt a bit sceptical of the true intentions of people when I was in England ?
    Well, I work with people from England and they complain about the lack of directness of Canadians. They said they get along with Americans better than Canadians because they are more direct.

    I get along with Americans better, too.

    Growing up in Canada, I assume everyone acts like Canadians and I guess this hinders my socialization, even online.

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    Dutch straightforwardness may have something to do with the English phrase, "Dutch uncle" - a person who criticizes or reproves with unsparing severity and frankness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood View Post
    Well, I work with people from England and they complain about the lack of directness of Canadians. They said they get along with Americans better than Canadians because they are more direct.

    Growing up in Canada, I assume everyone acts like Canadians and I guess this hinders my socialization, even online.
    If even English are more direct then Canadians.. then I would never be able to relate to most Canadians lol. Because you never know what's behind the façade and that's something I could never appreciate lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Odoacer View Post
    Dutch straightforwardness may have something to do with the English phrase, "Dutch uncle" - a person who criticizes or reproves with unsparing severity and frankness.
    Exactly !

    That's one thing I like about Australians: they say exactly what they feel and in the roughest way possible.



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    European guys dress different to English guys too i've noticed that. It's real easy to spot a German or Dutch from a English due to the clothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brunette View Post
    European guys dress different to English guys too i've noticed that. It's real easy to spot a German or Dutch from a English due to the clothing.
    It is said that Dutch have no sense for style (and that is.. when you compare us to the French or the Italians or the Austrians or even our own Southerners (Belgium) certainly true) but I have never met people that were dressed worse then in England. Although it could have to do with location, social class and thus income.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Civis Batavi View Post
    If even English are more direct then Canadians.. then I would never be able to relate to most Canadians lol. Because you never know what's behind the façade and that's something I could never appreciate lol.

    That's one thing I like about Australians: they say exactly what they feel and in the roughest way possible.
    Well Canadians have a reputation of being polite and such but their thoughts can be otherwise. Canadians won't often say how they feel for fear of being rude. They will even go to work sick, or go out sick, and give their nasty germs to you because they think it's rude to say "no I can't go out".

    I don't trust overly polite people for this reason. I have been burned. And I assume EVERYONE is thinking bad thoughts of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Members are often unable to understand people like Civis Batavi, but directness = openness = honesty = no secrets = comfort

    Dutch manner of speaking

    Despite being basically reserved, the Dutch have a manner of speaking that may startle you with its directness. They look you straight in the eye and can sound very abrupt, especially when they are speaking English or another foreign language and cannot express all the shades of meaning they would be able to express in their own language. They do not mean to be impolite, and their habit of coming to the point quickly can actually make things easier for the foreigner.

    The Dutch are seldom deferential in their speech simply on the basis of the other person’s age or station in life. Younger people, in particular, say what they think without cloaking their words in a mantle of respect. If you could understand Dutch, you would probably be astonished to hear how the prime minister is interviewed for television every week. The interviewer addresses him as an equal, posing direct, tough questions, which are often answered with equal directness.

    The Dutch avoid superlatives and tend to be negative, even about themselves. Compliments are offered sparingly, and to say that something is ‘not bad’ is to praise it. For the foreigner, this has the advantage that you do not need to worry too much about saying something that will hurt people’s feelings. The Dutch will argue, but seldom take offence.

    Their idea of a good time is expressed in the word ‘gezellig’. This describes a feeling of warm, relaxed congeniality. People are valued for being themselves and not putting on airs.
    It's true cause I met several Dutch people on some online games I used to play and I noticed that type of mentality.

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