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    Default The "caucasian" nose

    I'm interested in theories that could explain the emergence of the "caucasian" (White race) nose.

    I heard explanations involving climate, but they don't satisfy me.



    Since this is a forum very involved in physical anthroplogy of the political incorrect type, I'm interested if threre are other theories than the climatic ones.

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    Some weeks ago, I'm not sure on which forum, I stumbled on a topic with the title saying approximatively "A theoretical attempt to explain the evolution of the caucasian nose".

    I decided to read it later, only to discover a few days later that I was not sure what forum it was on.

    I thought that it was on the Skadi forum, but I can't seem to find it there. But I have the distinct impression that it was authored by one of the members of this forum, Agrippa.
    If he reads this, could he confirm if the article was indeed his, and point it to me, or paste it here?

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    First, how is the caucasian nose? Caucasians can have many noses, short, long, turned up, streight, roman, turned down and if you are really unlucky even very similar to arabic (Semites are considered caucasian indeed, though not eurpoid). So explain you better please.
    The question can be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vampire of Venice View Post
    First, how is the caucasian nose? Caucasians can have many noses, short, long, turned up, streight, roman, turned down and if you are really unlucky even very similar to arabic (Semites are considered caucasian indeed, though not eurpoid). So explain you better please.
    The question can be interesting.
    actually "europid" means caucasian, so it includes arabs. "European europid" is the term you're thinking of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curtis24 View Post
    actually "europid" means caucasian, so it includes arabs. "European europid" is the term you're thinking of.
    True. I myself prefer talking about "White Europids" on one side and "non-White Europids" or "mixed Europids" on the other side. It sums up the whole thing with accordance to historical definition of White that is Europid person of European, non-Jewish ancestry.

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    I have always known that Europids include Europeans + some Turks + Iranians, while semitics the others, though it is not politically correct so we use only caucasian.

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    I thought there was Europid and Europoid. The latter including some non Europeans, while Europid refered specifically to characterstics exclusive to Europe, rather than exclusive to Caucasians.
    There'll be no diversity if we end up burning in the Melting pot...

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    Well, my aim was not to enter into classifications about who is Europoid, Europid etc, but to talk about the recognisable general morphology of nose differentiating the noses of Europeans and more or less closely related populations, from the general, common nose morphology of Negroids and Sinoids for example.

    I am talking about those longer, narrower and more protruding European/Europoid/Europid... noses than the ones of these two other racial groups.

    I'm not interested in subtypes, but about that general morphologic pattern - how it evolved and why.

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    I'd suggest you to read these two posts by Agrippa.

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...27&postcount=3
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...29&postcount=4

    It should briefly answer your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasz View Post
    I'd suggest you to read these two posts by Agrippa.

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...27&postcount=3
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...29&postcount=4

    It should briefly answer your question.
    Interesting links, however, they do not address the specific issue that I'm interested in here: what were the evolution mechanisms - the specific evolutionary reasons that favored the selection of such longer, narrower, more protruding noses.

    It is not sufficient to just say that it is a "progressive" trait, one must be able to explain its specific selective advantages.

    There must be a better reason than adaptation to climate, which I don't buy at all.

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