Are Danubians just Aisto Nordids, West Baltids just Tavastids, and Corded med/yamnaya just Iranid?

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Is Danubian from Coon just Aisto Nordid? since Aisto Nordid seems like a mesocephalic Neo Danubian, when we look at his examples, they basically look like Aisto Nordids, but he included a Branchycephalic Danubian (Neo Danubian is branchycephalic), but this could be explained by him believing that Neo Danubians were less gracile than the old Danubians, and that might have been because he didn't know that eastern Finns were the cromagnid Savolaxid, and not Neo Danubian, you can see that in his map:

Danubian examples:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate28.htm
You can see Ns in eastern europe throught his map, he said his Danubian was part of the Nordic race, so maybe all those Ns in eastern europe are Danubians, but we now call them Aisto Nordids.
http://humanphenotypes.net/AistoNordid.html

Coon also believed The Aisto Nordids in west Finland and northen Sweden and Norway were Hallstatts, here he says that the modern day descendants of Danubians are found in the mesocephalic belts of eastern europe:



I believe Tavastid is West Baltid from Cheboksarov because, i believe many Neo Danubians were confused with Tavastids and that's why anthopologists thought Tavastid is a reduced cromagnid, so i believe the old West Baltid morph is what Tavastid should look like:

http://humanphenotypes.net/Tavastid.html
Tavastid is the one that should be seen as an eastern mostly unreduced Cromagnid, and not Borreby.


I said Corded med/yamnaya because, i don't know how to call dark Proto Nordids like the Russian Grigori Rasputin:

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

I wanted to know if there were dark proto Nordids, since the Yamnaya people usually had dark eyes and dark hair before Corded Ware.

As you know Proto Nordid is considered a cromagnid longer headed Aisto Nordid, i was thinking about what a cromagnid Pontid would look like to know what is the yamnaya phenotype, and then i thought of Iranid:
http://humanphenotypes.net/Iranid.html

Proto Nordid and Iranid look like the same type with different pigmentation, and Iranid looks like a cromagnid longer headed Pontid.
http://humanphenotypes.net/Pontid.html

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It also makes sense that it is Aisto Nordid because, he showed Pontic Mediterranean, but he mapped it as "Atlanto-Mediterranean" in his map, and Pontic Mediterrenan (Pontid) is just a darker version of Aisto Nordid. So it's so obvious that when he wrote "Danubian" Nordics or "Pontic" mediterraneans, he just meant "east" nordics and "east" mediterraneans.

You can see in the map above that Pontids are called atlanto-mediterreans, so it's obvious that those Ns in eastern europe refer to Danubians and Aisto Nordid.




I also believe Tavastid should be meso-branchycephalic.

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The so-called "Nordic" phenotype is just a light version of Med, very similar to Iranid. Its most archaic versions, present in some Rus, Romanians and Chechens, bridges the gap with Iranids even further...

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I also believe the Berberid and Eurafricanid cromagid phenotypes photos and information are wrong, and they are also 4 types instead of 2. 2 wirth meso-dolicephalic heads and 2 with hyperbrachycephalic or branchycephalic, the ones with same head types length differ in pigmentation and similar traits like light eyes.

I believe Berberid should look like this, since the Berberid morph in humanpehotypes.net looks branchycephalic (and berberid is supposed to be dolicocephalic according to the site's information):

http://humanphenotypes.net/Berberid.html

Then Berberid should have a northen variant with light brown skin, that is found in Spain, that looks like the old Atlanto Mediterranid morph, but shouldn't be called like that because people could confuse it with North Atlantid. It should be called Eurafricanid, and should look like this:

And also because the Eurafricanid morph from humanphenotypes.net has medium brown skin, and not light brown skin like it shows on the page information, there is no medium brown skin in Spain as you can see in this map, so the photo is wrong:
http://humanphenotypes.net/Eurafricanid.html
http://humanphenotypes.net/metrics/skin.html

Both of those types before were meso-dolicocephalic, now i'm gonna show the hyperbranchycephalic or branchycelic ones:

Now i believe that Berid should come back, and Berid should use the Berberid morph instead because, that morph is branchycephalic:


And there should be new phenotype with light brown skin (instead of medium brown skin like the Beberberid morph, and medium brown skin like the normal Berid i'm proposing), called "North Berid" or "Mediterranean Berid" or something similar, and should use the old Berid morph:



I also believe Anglo-Saxon and Dalofaelid are the same phenotype, and that Trønder is just a western Proto Nordid.

Tavastid should be also be divided into 2 types, 1 with hyperbrachycephalic-branchycelapic skulls, and the other with meso-dolicocephalic skulls:

1-The hyperbrachy-branchycephalic one is the one that should be called "Baltid", and i believe it should use the old humanphenotypes.com West baltid morph. This one is probably the one Bunak was talking about when he created his Valdai.

2-Then the one with meso-dolicocephalic skulls is the one that should be called "Old Baltid", it is very similar to the Valdai that Bunak created because, Bunak created a phenotype that seems like a longer headed Tavastid according to humanphenotypes.net (you can read that on the site), and it would show what Baltic people used to look like before the Brachycephalization process that happened in europe over the last hundreds of years, many Aisto Nordids must have been confused with this second type i'm proposing, that's why some antropologists believed Aisto Nordid was cromagnid.

Something similar should be done with Pre Slavic (diving the types into 2), to be able to classify dark east cromagnids with different head shapes.

I'm not really sure what Canarid and Paleo-Atlantid are, but i don't believe they are related to western cro-magnons, i believe they are related to eastern cro-magnons like Tavastid instead. They are probably their own thing.

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Is Danubian from Coon just Aisto Nordid? since Aisto Nordid seems like a mesocephalic Neo Danubian, when we look at his examples, they basically look like Aisto Nordids, but he included a Branchycephalic Danubian (Neo Danubian is branchycephalic), but this could be explained by him believing that Neo Danubians were less gracile than the old Danubians, and that might have been because he didn't know that eastern Finns were the cromagnid Savolaxid, and not Neo Danubian, you can see that in his map:

Danubian examples:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate28.htm
You can see Ns in eastern europe throught his map, he said his Danubian was part of the Nordic race, so maybe all those Ns in eastern europe are Danubians, but we now call them Aisto Nordids.
http://humanphenotypes.net/AistoNordid.html

Coon also believed The Aisto Nordids in west Finland and northen Sweden and Norway were Hallstatts, here he says that the modern day descendants of Danubians are found in the mesocephalic belts of eastern europe:



I believe Tavastid is West Baltid from Cheboksarov because, i believe many Neo Danubians were confused with Tavastids and that's why anthopologists thought Tavastid is a reduced cromagnid, so i believe the old West Baltid morph is what Tavastid should look like:

http://humanphenotypes.net/Tavastid.html
Tavastid is the one that should be seen as an eastern mostly unreduced Cromagnid, and not Borreby.


I said Corded med/yamnaya because, i don't know how to call dark Proto Nordids like the Russian Grigori Rasputin:

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

I wanted to know if there were dark proto Nordids, since the Yamnaya people usually had dark eyes and dark hair before Corded Ware.

As you know Proto Nordid is considered a cromagnid longer headed Aisto Nordid, i was thinking about what a cromagnid Pontid would look like to know what is the yamnaya phenotype, and then i thought of Iranid:
http://humanphenotypes.net/Iranid.html

Proto Nordid and Iranid look like the same type with different pigmentation, and Iranid looks like a cromagnid longer headed Pontid.
http://humanphenotypes.net/Pontid.html

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

this site is wrog ; error here no 1 % reality

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Here Coon talks about the Danubian type in Russians, i think that is caused because Russians sometimes have long heads due to them absorbing the scythians: