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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    The PVV did vote for the inclusion of foreign laws into Dutch court cases (Sharia law). That's just one example. But I recommend you to stay out of Dutch politics.
    lol. If a contract is made under Sharia law, then it has to get arbitrated under that law, even if it is in a Dutch court.

    On topic: there's no reason why people living in a country should not have access to education, regardless of their residential status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    lol. If a contract is made under Sharia law, then it has to get arbitrated under that law, even if it is in a Dutch court.
    A contract made in the Netherlands is only valid when it fits Dutch law. That's a basis for legal and national sovereignty.

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    On topic: there's no reason why people living in a country should not have access to education, regardless of their residential status.
    Leave that to the Dutch.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    A contract made in the Netherlands is only valid when it fits Dutch law. That's a basis for legal and national sovereignty.
    Sharia law fits Dutch law. It's the principle of freedom of contract.

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    Leave that to the Dutch.
    No. This is an EU-wide issue. What happens in one country will have effects on all the other countries because of the principle of free movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Sharia law fits Dutch law.
    No it doesn't. Study Dutch law before you come back. Dutch law formulates (in quite some detail) what a contract entails.


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    No. This is an EU-wide issue. What happens in one country will have effects on all the other countries because of the principle of free movement.
    Schengen does not affect this as the principle of the free movement of people only covers EU citizens.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    No it doesn't. Study Dutch law before you come back.
    Yes, it does. Go study Dutch law yourself. It's contractual freedom.

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    Schengen does not affect this as free movement of people only refers to EU citizens.
    Schengen means that there are no border controls. That means your problem becomes someone else's problem if you mess around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    No it doesn't. Study Dutch law before you come back.

    Yes, it does. Go study Dutch law yourself. It's contractual freedom.
    First study Dutch law and then come back.

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    Schengen means that there are no border controls. That means your problem becomes someone else's problem if you mess around.
    Wrong. Schengen means that there are no inter-European borders but an African or Afghan illegal isn't covered by that and this is as such just another matter of Dutch national sovereignty..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    First study Dutch law and then come back.
    Go study Dutch law yourself.

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    Wrong. Schengen means that there are no inter-European borders but an African or Afghan illegal isn't covered by that and this is as such just another matter of Dutch national sovereignty..
    Yes, they covered by the absence of border controls. That means if you deny education to your illegals, they can easily move to a different country. Using the Schengen treaty in that way constitutes a breach of loyalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Go study Dutch law yourself.
    I am Dutch and you haven't got a clue of it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Yes, they covered by the absence of border controls. That means if you deny education to your illegals, they can easily move to a different country. Using the Schengen treaty in that way constitutes a breach of loyalty.
    Wrong. It means that we Dutch can quite easily expel them. Not to Germany or so.. but to their own country. Deal with it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuan Belanda View Post
    I am Dutch and you haven't got a clue of it.
    Yeah, I do. This is basic contract law. Only a total clown would complain about it.

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    Wrong. It means that we Dutch can quite easily expel them. Not to Germany or so.. but to their own country. Deal with it.
    You're not talking about expelling. You are talking about access to education. Otherwise your thread would have been called "expelling illegal immigrants" and not "Labour: allow illegal aliens to complete degree"

    Can't you stay on topic in your own thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    Yeah, I do. This is basic contract law. Only a total clown would complain about it.
    Wrong. Dutch law regulates the form of contracts and as such the validity of contracts are regulated by law.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mary View Post
    You're not talking about expelling. You are taking about access to education. Otherwise your thread would have been called "expelling illegal immigrants" and not "Labour: allow illegal aliens to complete degree"

    Can't you stay on topic in your own thread?
    Wrong. There is a reason why it causes an uproar in this country as Labour comes up with an idea that goes against Dutch immigration laws. Now, Mary, we are done with the debate: get out of the thread.



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