Women in the workforce: feminist victory or economic necessity?

**Kazimiera** · 04-06-2012, 09:40 PM

To what degree are the concessions afforded women today in the workplace the result of?

Hard-fought victories by the feminist movement over the past 40 years or due to economic necessity, such as a rising cost of living and that the average household in the western world is not longer able to function on a single salary?

We know that the feminist movement made large steps in making jobs more available to women, as well as better salaries. Some countries are still fighting on equal salaries. So are jobs available to women because of feminism?

OR

Life becomes more expensive. In years gone by people could raise families on one salary. But now both husband and wife hold jobs. So is it just because of an economic nessecity?

**~~JamesSteal~~** · 04-06-2012, 09:49 PM

Cut down on thousands of dollars of designer dresses, make-up and yoga classes. Also, don't look to purchase that fabulous 2,000 square ft. apartment you clearly can't afford as an administrative assistant. The cost of living will significantly decrease when you save your money for necessities instead of spending it on your ego.

**Kazimiera** · 04-06-2012, 10:29 PM

Intelligent answers that actually focus on the question please.

**Mary** · 04-06-2012, 10:32 PM

Spoiler!

**Kazimiera** · 04-09-2012, 10:26 PM

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**Runahild** · 04-11-2012, 05:29 PM

I think feminism is very wrong to women actually and to our society. The sacred role of women to take care of the home and family isn't meant to be seen as inferior like feminism means it is. But the system has definitely a role to play in the fact women have to work more, and be more away from home. By creating a financial need too big to be only carried by men alone. Of course your lifestyle says a lot as well, we can save money on many things if as a woman you wish to be a housewife. This modern world teaches women to care more for fashion, make up, all those superficial things that have no importance in life. Instead of caring for family and a good husband, they'd rather think they are free because they make their own money and are allowed by society to be with one different man every week end.
I have much more respect for those few women who still wish to be housewives, care of their home and family and who remain natural.

**Feral** · 04-12-2012, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by Runahild

I think feminism is very wrong to women actually and to our society. The sacred role of women to take care of the home and family isn't meant to be seen as inferior like feminism means it is. But the system has definitely a role to play in the fact women have to work more, and be more away from home. By creating a financial need too big to be only carried by men alone. Of course your lifestyle says a lot as well, we can save money on many things if as a woman you wish to be a housewife. This modern world teaches women to care more for fashion, make up, all those superficial things that have no importance in life. Instead of caring for family and a good husband, they'd rather think they are free because they make their own money and are allowed by society to be with one different man every week end.
I have much more respect for those few women who still wish to be housewives, care of their home and family and who remain natural.

This a good POV about being traditional. I despice the globalized stereotype of a working-class woman trying to fit in a moderm social model (if it's frivolous) as well as you do. No human that worship money is free.
However, isn't that simple. First at all, most women in the history of human kind were seen as inferior to men and they were obligated to follow a role because of it. And any living being that is chained to do things that doesn't want to do, won't feel free and won't be free. Noone can define freedom, and everyone is free to be. The problem, of course, if when freedom is defined and set into a canonical rule which "should be" follow.
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And to answer the topic. Yes to both question. I don't think that just feminist had fight for women and their rights of freedom. But women do
now are more free than before. And, on the other hand, it has become a economical necessity for lower and some middle-class couples to hold jobs both of them. It's possibly that this economical problem had affected the political decision, but I don't think it had too much influence.

**2Cool** · 04-12-2012, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by Runahild

I think feminism is very wrong to women actually and to our society. The sacred role of women to take care of the home and family isn't meant to be seen as inferior like feminism means it is. But the system has definitely a role to play in the fact women have to work more, and be more away from home. By creating a financial need too big to be only carried by men alone. Of course your lifestyle says a lot as well, we can save money on many things if as a woman you wish to be a housewife. This modern world teaches women to care more for fashion, make up, all those superficial things that have no importance in life. Instead of caring for family and a good husband, they'd rather think they are free because they make their own money and are allowed by society to be with one different man every week end.
I have much more respect for those few women who still wish to be housewives, care of their home and family and who remain natural.

Good luck sustaining a economy when half of your citizens are home. You are also forcing people into gender roles which is wrong as gender roles change all the time and change depending on the culture. There are matriarchal societies you know.

But what if a woman wants to become a Doctor? Oh she can't now? But why? Oh I see, her role is to stay home to take care of kids while the father works and provides for the family. And what if a man wants to be a stay at home dad? Oops too bad you can't. Besides, if women are always home why do they need to vote? It's not like they'll be affected by it government since they are always home. I guess we could remove their right to vote as well then? Going to school would also be useless. You don't need to know calculus to know how to cook a meal and breast feed.

This is pretty closes minded way of seeing the world. I honestly think such thinking stems from insecurity. Insecurity that a woman can be more successful than you and can make more money than you etc. Personality I would rather a more confident woman that knows what she wants and is independent. I don't want to spineless woman with no back bone who's only worth is to do house chores. That wouldn't set a good example for my kids.

btw I'm not a feminist. In fact I hate most of them since I feel they are not concerned with gender equality and are more only concerned with pushing female rights. A lot of the serious ones also don't shave their arm pits and smell weird.