Women in the workforce: feminist victory or economic necessity?

[Thanas Django]

To what degree are the concessions afforded women today in the workplace the result of?

Hard-fought victories by the feminist movement over the past 40 years or due to economic necessity, such as a rising cost of living and that the average household in the western world is not longer able to function on a single salary?

We know that the feminist movement made large steps in making jobs more available to women, as well as better salaries. Some countries are still fighting on equal salaries. So are jobs available to women because of feminism?

OR

Life becomes more expensive. In years gone by people could raise families on one salary. But now both husband and wife hold jobs. So is it just because of an economic nessecity?

Women have historically always been part of the workforce. The amount of time where they were excluded from the workforce is miniscule and limited to a tiny minority of affluent people in affluent countries.

Ask your grandma if she worked.

[rhiannon]

Is your mother still living?

Yes. She's 81 and shows no signs of going anywhere anytime soon.

What did people even use computers for then? There was no internet and no gaming...

They were still being developed. Military had them. But today's cell phones have far more computing power than even the most behemoth computers did back then.

If you're healthy now, probably you won't die next year

Yeah one would hope lol

[CENTER]Some are believers
Some don't know
Some are lost
They're lost and alone

Some are deceivers
Their souls been sold
For the love
For the love of strange medicine

Where is this from? I've never read it before.

You should try to read the Bible more.

I kinda tried to back in my Christian period. Never could buy into what it was saying though. That's just me.

Mormonism is not the true Christianity.

Yeah I think most Christians would agree with that.

People are saved by faith alone.

This is the most difficult question of all for people like me. If you as an individual though find comfort in your own faith/beliefs, then more power to you I'm comfortable as an Agnostic and have felt more peace this way than I ever did years before.

Have a good night for you too

[Bobby Martnen]

Yes. She's 81 and shows no signs of going anywhere anytime soon.

I wonder if the TA will still exist when I'm 81? (2079) If it doesn't, I don't see a reason for me to stay alive that long...

They were still being developed. Military had them. But today's cell phones have far more computing power than even the most behemoth computers did back then.

If I couldn't use computers to have fun, I don't think I'd use them at all

Sounds like old-timey computers were essentially overgrown calculators. BORING! lol

Yeah one would hope lol

I do know people who have died suddenly in their 40s, or got sick in their 50s and were dead within 10 days. I hope that doesn't happen to me.

Where is this from? I've never read it before.

I kinda tried to back in my Christian period. Never could buy into what it was saying though. That's just me.

Sometimes I have my doubts, but I have chosen to trust in the Lord.

Yeah I think most Christians would agree with that.

Yes, but most would still vote for a Mormon Republican over a Democrat, because Democrats hate Christians and look down on us.

This is the most difficult question of all for people like me. If you as an individual though find comfort in your own faith/beliefs, then more power to you I'm comfortable as an Agnostic and have felt more peace this way than I ever did years before.

You might change your mind in 30 years when death goes from being "something that will happen to me decades from now" to "something that could happen to me any day".

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[rhiannon]

I wonder if the TA will still exist when I'm 81? (2079) If it doesn't, I don't see a reason for me to stay alive that long...

I'd be amazed if it did.

If I couldn't use computers to have fun, I don't think I'd use them at all

Sounds like old-timey computers were essentially overgrown calculators. BORING! lol

Yeah they kinda started out as just that....calculators.

I do know people who have died suddenly in their 40s, or got sick in their 50s and were dead within 10 days. I hope that doesn't happen to me.

It can happen at anytime. Tomorrow is never guaranteed. I hope it doesn't happen to you, to me, or to almost anyone (child killers can drop dead right now as far as I'm concerned).

Sometimes I have my doubts, but I have chosen to trust in the Lord.

I'm surprised to see you admit to having doubts. To me, it shows your introspection and willingness to embrace other possibilities, which is a good thing. Of course, only you can know what feels right

I would say I am not against the idea of any religious doctrine turning out to be true, but I am saying that I have no way to tell which is and which isn't without tangible scientific evidence. I also accept the possibility of there being nothing at all.

Yes, but most would still vote for a Mormon Republican over a Democrat, because Democrats hate Christians and look down on us.

Many Dems are Christians themselves, though.

You might change your mind in 30 years when death goes from being "something that will happen to me decades from now" to "something that could happen to me any day"

. I've definitely thought about this. The 1991 film called "The Rapture" sort of touches on this very thing. Film is very, very bleak...and dark.

[Bobby Martnen]

I'd be amazed if it did.

I hope it never goes away. Even if Loki retires some day, I hope he names a successor, so that the TA can live forever.

Yeah they kinda started out as just that....calculators.

I'm glad someone eventually figured out how to make them not boring.

It can happen at anytime. Tomorrow is never guaranteed. I hope it doesn't happen to you, to me, or to almost anyone (child killers can drop dead right now as far as I'm concerned).

I could easily get hit by a car, or slip on the sidewalk and crack my skull, or even choke to death on my own stupidity. I hope it won't happen, but it could.

I'm surprised to see you admit to having doubts. To me, it shows your introspection and willingness to embrace other possibilities, which is a good thing. Of course, only you can know what feels right

I used to be an atheist, and I am still recovering, but every day I pray and read more, and I am strengthening my faith and banishing my doubts.

I would say I am not against the idea of any religious doctrine turning out to be true, but I am saying that I have no way to tell which is and which isn't without tangible scientific evidence. I also accept the possibility of there being nothing at all.

ASSUME GOD IS NOT REAL
If you're right, death is just nothingness
If you're wrong, you will be eternally tormented

ASSUME GOD IS REAL
If you're right, you will have eternal paradise
If you're wrong, death is just nothingness


Assuming God is real is the better bet.

Many Dems are Christians themselves, though.

In a vague sense, but most are just "I go to church on Christmas and Easter" Christians, as opposed to "I have a personal relationship to Jesus and pray every day" Christians.

I've definitely thought about this. The 1991 film called "The Rapture" sort of touches on this very thing. Film is very, very bleak...and dark.

I don't watch a lot of movies, because they take a long time, and I have a short attention span. The fact that I drink a bathtub's worth of caffeine every day probably doesn't help, either.

My favorite movie is SCARFACE. Tony Montana is such a badass and an amazing antihero.

[rhiannon]

I could easily get hit by a car, or slip on the sidewalk and crack my skull, or even choke to death on my own stupidity. I hope it won't happen, but it could.

OMG I died laughing on this one. Bobby you really can have a great sense of humor lol

ASSUME GOD IS NOT REAL
If you're right, death is just nothingness
If you're wrong, you will be eternally tormented

ASSUME GOD IS REAL
If you're right, you will have eternal paradise
If you're wrong, death is just nothingness


Assuming God is real is the better bet.

Believe it or not, this one of the more cogent arguments on behalf of Christianity I've ever seen. Nice job. Not sure it'll work on me of all people, but your rationale is sound.

In a vague sense, but most are just "I go to church on Christmas and Easter" Christians, as opposed to "I have a personal relationship to Jesus and pray every day" Christians.

This is kinda how I grew up. I was baptized Episcopalian as a baby but we were more or less secular.

I don't watch a lot of movies, because they take a long time, and I have a short attention span. The fact that I drink a bathtub's worth of caffeine every day probably doesn't help, either.

Be careful with your caffeine loads. You can induce premature heart disease if you drink too many energy drinks, etc.

[Bobby Martnen]

OMG I died laughing on this one. Bobby you really can have a great sense of humor lol

Thanks

Believe it or not, this one of the more cogent arguments on behalf of Christianity I've ever seen. Nice job. Not sure it'll work on me of all people, but your rationale is sound.

Thanks

Also believing in Christianity gives me a sense of hope and purpose, so for me, even if I turn out to be wrong in the end, it will have made my life happier and less stressful.

This is kinda how I grew up. I was baptized Episcopalian as a baby but we were more or less secular.

People like this aren't really Christian, anymore than someone who just knows "Don't Stop Believin'" and "Open Arms" is really a Journey fan.

Be careful with your caffeine loads. You can induce premature heart disease if you drink too many energy drinks, etc.

I checked with an online calculator for caffeine intake relative to body size, and I'm not in the Danger Zone. (my apologies to Kenny Loggins) I'm also a fairly large person who has built up tolerance over time.

When I am not caffeinated, I feel "bleh".

BTW, what is a "rhiannon", and how do you pronounce it? I've never come across this word before...

[Profileid]

It may be an economic necessity, but I would never, ever marry a woman who wanted any career or life outside of birthing and raising little Boberinos and Boberinas.

You won't ever marry a woman anyway.
Because you're fucking gay.