View Poll Results: Nagorno-Karabakh should be part of Armenia?

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Thread: Is Nagorno-Karabakh Armenian or Azerbaijani land?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregor View Post
    So? what does it matter, Being a majority doesnt mean you are the right owner of the land. What is important is that the armenians were deported by the safavids and then the azeris where the majority. end of deal. When the the safavid rule was broken the land was ginvin back to the armenians , doesnt matter if the armenians where the majority or not.
    You are arguing that the reason Azerbaijani Turks became a majority in Irevan was because Armenians were deported by Safavids to Iran (the same was often done with Azerbaijani Turks aswell, as the result of the policy of depopulating the frontier regions), and when Russians annexed the region, they "allowed Armenians back", but you forget that this alone would not be sufficent for an Armenian majority, and it wasn't, the demographics of Irevan was changed in favor of Armenians when the more numerous part came from Ottoman Empire, whom had no relation to these lands.

    So in the end most of Armenian population in present-day Armenian (and Karabakh) was artifically created.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    The people can still live there but the territory remains to tHIS day Azeri land and everybody sees Karabakh as occupied land by international LAW.
    What international "law"? Don't make me laugh.
    In fact according to that law every province can legaly declare independency.
    It is not about law but power. Law is changeable category.

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    Nagorno-Karabach is Armenian land just like Kosovo belongs to Serbia,
    @Hoca ask other members what they think of this issue.
    If the International Comite would really see this as Azerbaijani Land they would try to blockade Armenia in all the posible ways, But this is not the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    but the Azeri that were driven out will move back in.
    If they demand the right to move back in,then we can demand the right for hundreads
    of thousands of armenians that were displaced from Baku and northern karabakh to move back in.
    The history has teached us that we should live separately.
    The best thing that azerbeijan can do is to be the first country to recognize the independence of
    nagorni karabakh and open its embassy in the capital. Then we can live peacefully in the region.

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    This is what I know about the conflict. The facts may not be accurate.

    The region was settled by Armenians a long time ago. Armenians were the prevailing majority throughout much of history. The population was 8.5-9.5(Armenians) : 0.5-1 (Everybody else) in the 20 th century. There is a history of dispute over the region between two country. In 1991 there was a referendum for independence in Nagorny Karabakh during which people voted for independence.

    If the constitution of Azerbaijan (Karabakh had autonomy status) allowed for such referendums, then it’s the end of story. The two countries, Azerbaijan and Armenia should just leave the region alone. Just let them be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJVT View Post
    @Hoca ask other members what they think of this issue.
    wHY DO I have to ask other members? Some Serb or Armenian is not an authority on international law.

    I invite guys to 2013 where things are done with laws.

    Karabakh is Azeri land by INTERNATIONAL LAW. No discussion possible. End of discussion.

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    The Caucasian Albanians were the first in the area, it seems. Those people were assimilated among Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Interesting. Brothers?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasi...a#Ethnogenesis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The Caucasian Albanians were the first in the area, it seems. Those people were assimilated among Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Interesting. Brothers?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasi...a#Ethnogenesis
    That history belongs to Azeri.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoca View Post
    wHY DO I have to ask other members? Some Serb or Armenian is not an authority on international law.

    I invite guys to 2013 where things are done with laws.

    Karabakh is Azeri land by INTERNATIONAL LAW. No discussion possible. End of discussion.
    I ask again what law?
    After all that referendum was conducted according to law also. People voted.

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