Is Nagorno-Karabakh Armenian or Azerbaijani land?

[Armenian Bishop]

In regards to those whom voted against a unification of Karabakh with Armenia (those whom voted NO): It should be noted that at least 28 of the 48 NO Votes are from those whom either identify themselves as Turkic, or use the Turkish Flag. The only NO Vote in the Armenian category is Nagodre; but Nagodre identifies himself as Turkic, from Turkey, in his profile (so I bundled him together with the rest of the NO Votes). This means that only 20 of the remaining NO Votes are Non-Turkic.

As for those whom voted for a unification of Karabakh with Armenia (those whom voted YES): 86 NON Armenians Voted YES, and 25 Armenians Voted YES. So we have better than a 4 to 1 ratio whom support Armenia in this poll (among those whom aren't Armenian or Turkic.

[Armenian Bishop]

A breakdown of Poll Percentages:
86 Non Armenian Members Voted YES (with Armenians).
25 Armenian Members Voted YES (as Armenians).
20 Non Turkic Members Voted NO (with Azerbaijan).
28 Turkic & Turkish Members Voted NO (as Turkic).

List of Turkic & Turkish Members whom Voted NO:
1 ..... adsiz
2 ..... aksakalicocuk
3 ..... Alially
4 ..... Anatolian Eagle
5 ..... Azalea
6 ..... Busra-Turk
7 ..... Dengizik
8 ..... Dark Secret
9 ..... gültekin
10 ..... Hayalet
11 ... Hoca
12 ... itilvolga
13 ... Karahisarli
14 ... Kipchak Håkan
15 ... Kuvayi_Milliye
16 ... Nagodre
17 ... Onur
18 ... orangepulp
19 ... Partizan
20 ... Pecheneg
21 ... Pentagram
22 ... PlanA
23 ... scorpiongirl
24 ... Siberian Cold Breeze
25 ... Siyendi
26 ... Sultan Suleiman
27 ... teodor11
28 ... Yumurta

[femekh]

Thousands of Turks...

The only "Armenian" who voted "no" is a Turk claiming to be Armenian. Just check his profile

[DarkSecret]

A breakdown of Poll Percentages:
86 Non Armenian Members Voted YES (with Armenians).
25 Armenian Members Voted YES (as Armenians).
20 Non Turkic Members Voted NO (with Azerbaijan).
28 Turkic & Turkish Members Voted NO (as Turkic).

List of Turkic & Turkish Members whom Voted NO:
1 ..... adsiz
2 ..... aksakalicocuk
3 ..... Alially
4 ..... Anatolian Eagle
5 ..... Azalea
6 ..... Busra-Turk
7 ..... Dengizik
8 ..... Dark Secret
9 ..... gültekin
10 ..... Hayalet
11 ... Hoca
12 ... itilvolga
13 ... Karahisarli
14 ... Kipchak Håkan
15 ... Kuvayi_Milliye
16 ... Nagodre
17 ... Onur
18 ... orangepulp
19 ... Partizan
20 ... Pecheneg
21 ... Pentagram
22 ... PlanA
23 ... scorpiongirl
24 ... Siberian Cold Breeze
25 ... Siyendi
26 ... Sultan Suleiman
27 ... teodor11
28 ... Yumurta

What's this? A kill list for ASALA?

[Armenian Bishop]

What's this? A kill list for ASALA?

I put that up, because Albion counted Armenians in a separate category, but not Turkic People. It was done that way, because the thread was opened before there was a Turkish Sub-Forum, and there weren't many Turks here at that time. But, thanks for the humorous comment.

Turkic People make up the lion's share of the no vote, and I wanted people do be able to visualize that point easier. You probably don't belong in that list, because you're a Laz -- sorry about that.

[DarkSecret]

I put that up, because Albion counted Armenians in a separate category, but not Turkic People. It was done that way, because the thread was opened before there was a Turkish Sub-Forum, and there weren't many Turks here at that time. But, thanks for the humorous comment.

Turkic People make up the lion's share of the no vote, and I wanted people do be able to visualize that point easier. You probably don't belong in that list, because you're a Laz -- sorry about that.

I am Turkish if not Turkic so I well belong to that kill list... Btw famous economist Daron Acemoğlu is also Armenian but not a traitor.

[Armenian Bishop]

I am Turkish if not Turkic so I well belong to that kill list... Btw famous economist Daron Acemoğlu is also Armenian but not a traitor.

I didn't create that list with the intention of making a "Kill List" (so to speak), and I explained why I made the list, in my previous comment.

As I said before, the original poll wasn't done right, because Armenian members were placed in a separate category, while Turkic members weren't separated from the other votes. The Poll became unbalanced, with 2 groups of Yes Votes, and only 1 group of No Votes. So, I created the list, for the purpose of separating the Turkic Members in the same way that it was already done with Armenian members. Of course, that doesn't mean that I like the baloney some people try to sell, because I don't.

It's really as simple as that -- so knock it off, and stop being so paranoid.

[Massagetae]

I didn't create that list with the intention of making a "Kill List" (so to speak), and I explained why I made the list, in my previous comment.

As I said before, the original poll wasn't done right, because Armenian members were placed in a separate category, while Turkic members weren't separated from the other votes. The Poll became unbalanced, with 2 groups of Yes Votes, and only 1 group of No Votes. So, I created the list, for the purpose of separating the Turkic Members in the same way that it was already done with Armenian members. Of course, that doesn't mean that I like the baloney some people try to sell, because I don't.

It's really as simple as that -- so knock it off, and stop being so paranoid.

Armenian Bishop why you look so chinky? Should we be calling you Kipchak Bishop?

[Armenian Bishop]

At this point, Armenians in general cannot trust Azerbaijan. The government of Azerbaijan has engaged in ethnic cleansing practices that practice continue into the 21st Century. There is still a government organized project bent upon destroying all traces of Armenian cultural heritage in Azeri controlled territories. This was the case in Nakhichevan, where the Armenian population was expelled, and their cultural landmarks destroyed. There is documented evidence about the destruction of Armenian Churches and Cemeteries, some of it videoed from the Iranian side of the Border.

There were pogroms, or government organized mob violence, which used local government information to search and attack Armenians, in Sumgait (1988), Kirovabad (1988), and Baku (1990), in which countless Armenians were tormented, killed and injured. Baroness Caroline Cox witnessed atrocities perpetrated by Azeri-Turks. She has spoken about the horrors of the Maraga Massacre (1992), when it was overrun by Azeris, during the Karabakh War (1988-1994). When Maraga was recaptured, she witnessed the remains of brutally murdered Armenian Civilians, including many burnt human bodies, and beheaded human bodies. The behead Armenians were brutally killed with power saws. In this video she describes what happened during the Maraga Massacre.

[Kamal900]

Obviously it's Armenian.