Is Nagorno-Karabakh Armenian or Azerbaijani land?

**Mingle** · 10-08-2018, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by klarji

Have no idea.
There lived local isolated Caucasian mountaineers related to modern Dagestanian peoples. They were conquered and assimilated by Indo-European Armenians. Then was a Turkic migration wave that settled the region populated then by Armenians.
There is still alive Udy people, two villages in Azerbaijan from Dagestan language group whose ancestores lived there before Armenians.
Though I can understand Armenians. Indo-Europeans came in the Caucasus much earlier then Turks.
But their and Ossetians' claims towards aboriginal Georgians and Lazes are ridiculous and even impudent.

Proof that Udis used to live in NK?

**Mingle** · 10-08-2018, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by Böri

The aim wasn't physical genocide but cultural genocide (assimilation). That worked. Through time, Albanians disappeared among Armenians and Georgians. 20k Udys are all that's left from them.

Among Armenians and Georgians or among Turks? Lezgics/Udis used to live mostly in modern day Republic of Azerbaijan, not Armenia or Georgia.

**~~Shqipez~~** · 10-08-2018, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Dick

is that the dude that fought McGregor last night?

Nah, he's Avar from Dagestan. But I guess the pre Persian and Pre Turkic people of Azerbaijan were maybe a similar population. Not sure.

**Babak** · 10-08-2018, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Shqipe

Nah, he's Avar from Dagestan. But I guess the pre Persian and Pre Turkic people of Azerbaijan were maybe a similar population. Not sure.

They havent changed much

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**StonyArabia** · 10-08-2018, 03:23 AM

Don't care, because it's none of my business. They can duke it all they want

**~~Shqipez~~** · 10-08-2018, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by Babak

They havent changed much

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Are there any genetic studies on the Udis ?

**~~Böri~~** · 10-08-2018, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mingle

Among Armenians and Georgians or among Turks? Lezgics/Udis used to live mostly in modern day Republic of Azerbaijan, not Armenia or Georgia.

Georgians and Armenians.

**DarkSecret** · 10-08-2018, 07:59 PM

It's God's land. He created it mashallah.

**~~Papastratosels26~~** · 10-08-2018, 08:06 PM

Armenian imo

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**Armenian Bishop** · 10-12-2018, 10:14 AM

Armenians gave their blood for that land, they sacrificed more than 5,000 whom perished in battle, plus thousands of civilian lives; yet, I see people complaining about Armenia's Karabakh Stronghold here, as if their people deserve nothing bigger than an Indian Reservation.

Armenian Churches, Cemeteries and Ancient Fortresses are embedded deeply into the land, for centuries, even thousands of years; yet, people say that Armenians aren't allowed to call it their Homeland. Well, I don't want to see Azeri work crews put to work for the destruction of those churches, cemeteries and old fortresses.

Armenians live there now, so stop complaining and try to make peace. Armenia has as strong a case for territorial integrity as does Azerbaijan. But, the case for self determination is a sufficient reason to claim the Karabakh Stronghold for Armenia. Armenians live there, and they've been a majority population there for a very long time.

If Turkey and Azerbaijan don't like that, then they shouldn't complain about those elements among Armenians whom want to claim the former Ottoman Armenian Highlands of present day Eastern Turkey.

I think it's best for Azerbaijan to stop making trouble on the border. Armenians accomplished their objective, and hold defensive positions; trust me, it's the Azeris that repeatedly violate the ceasefire agreements. Just leave Armenia's Karabakh Stronghold in peace, and I'm sure they won't attack Azerbaijan.