Armenian genocide.

[gregorius]

That they enjoyed high positions just as well and that they were no real second class citizens in the way the British treated India or we treated Indonesia.

How is a man who is not able/allowed to defend himself when a muslims attacks him not second class.
Or not allowed to witnessing against a muslim

[The Lawspeaker]

A man who is not able/allowed to defend yourself when a muslims attacks him not second class

Evidence for that claim ?

[wvwvw]

Well I know what would happen: Sherman's March to the Sea. Ten times over. And that's how one "rewards" treason. IN ANY COUNTRY.

Brutal reprisals entail the genocide of 1,500,000 million Armenians mostly women and children? Then be prepared to be tried for Genocide at International courts. And that's how the civilized world "rewards" Genocide perpetrators. IN ANY PART OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD

[gregorius]

Evidence for that claim ?

Point 1 and point 5 combine it together and there you go.

http://www.islammonitor.org/index.ph...2456&Itemid=96

[wvwvw]

No need to say that because this scenario has been realized in Greece during WW-2. Greeks claimed that the Cham Albanians collaborated with Nazis and they did exact same thing to them and even more. They deported all the 35.000 Cham Albanians out from Greece.

Cham Albanians indeed collaborated with Nazis, they were tried and found guilty of attrocities and war crimes against Greeks. Before that they had collaborated with Turks and actively took part in massacres against Greeks.

They fled to Albania to avoid the verdicts. Clearly there was no plan to exterminate them and if you think there was one you are welcome to bring proof to the International Court of Hague. So far we have the witness of a British Colonel, who brands the "massacre" as reprisals and even notes that "Chams deserved it".

Btw, if a court finds Greece guilty I would be glad to recognize the "genocide".

[Musso]

Only this sentence is enough to see that the Armenians was occupying all the important positions by their tentacles during WW-1 and yet they accuse us by supposedly committing genocide to them at the same time;

and Jews in Germany? What kind of positions did they hold?

[wvwvw]

Only this sentence is enough to see that the Armenians was occupying all the important positions by their tentacles during WW-1 and yet they accuse us by supposedly committing genocide to them at the same time;

There were Bosnians, Croats, Kosovo Albanians etc that held even more important posititions in the former Yugoslavia and same goes for the Jews and many other nations that have been victims of genocide. How is your argument relevant?

The Armenians who held important positions did so for their own personal gain. They had to agree to the cultural genocide of their people first, while the common dhimmi lived under subhuman conditions.

[Onur]

The Armenians who held important positions did so for their own personal gain. They had to agree to the cultural genocide of their people first, while the common dhimmi lived under subhuman conditions.

Wtf you talking about? What cultural genocide? How come providing them schools, churches and self-autonomy in most areas becomes a cultural genocide?

It`s obvious that you are brainwashed to the core with stupid fantasies like "secret church schools".

You are just a fool.

[wvwvw]

Evidence for that claim ?

As "People of the Book," Jews (and Christians) are protected under Islamic law. The traditional concept of the "dhimma" ("writ of protection") was extended by Muslim conquerors to Christians and Jews in exchange for their subordination to the Muslims.

Qur'an (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

In the early years of the Islamic conquest, the "tribute" (or jizya), paid as a yearly poll tax, symbolized the subordination of the dhimmi. Later, the inferior status of Jews and Christians was reinforced through a series of regulations that governed the behavior of the dhimmi.

They were not allowed to ride horses or camels, to build synagogues or churches taller than mosques, to construct houses higher than those of Muslims or to drink wine in public. They were not allowed to pray or mourn in loud voices-as that might offend the Muslims. The dhimmi had to show public deference toward Muslims-always yielding them the center of the road. Dhimmis were also forced to wear distinctive clothing. The dhimmi was not allowed to give evidence in court against a Muslim, and his oath was unacceptable in an Islamic court. To defend himself, the dhimmi would have to purchase Muslim witnesses at great expense. This left the dhimmi with little legal recourse when harmed by a Muslim.

At various times, dhimmis in Muslim lands were able to live in relative peace and thrive culturally and economically. The position of the dhimmis was never secure, however, and changes in the political or social climate would often lead to persecution, violence and death. Christians were generally viewed with contempt by their Muslim neighbors; peaceful coexistence between the two groups involved the subordination and degradation of the Christians.

When dhimmis were perceived as having achieved too comfortable a position in Islamic society, it often had devastating results: On December 30, 1066, Joseph HaNagid, the Jewish vizier of Granada, Spain, was crucified by an Arab mob that proceeded to raze the Jewish quarter of the city and slaughter its 5,000 inhabitants. The riot was incited by Muslim preachers who had angrily objected to what they saw as inordinate Jewish political power.

Similarly, in 1465, Arab mobs in Fez slaughtered thousands of Jews, leaving only 11 alive, after a Jewish deputy vizier treated a Muslim woman in "an offensive manner." The killings touched off a wave of similar massacres throughout Morocco

By the twentieth century, the status of the dhimmi in Muslim lands had not significantly improved. H.E.W. Young, British Vice Consul in Mosul, wrote in 1909:
The attitude of the Muslims toward the Christians and the Jews is that of a master towards slaves, whom he treats with a certain lordly tolerance so long as they keep their place. Any sign of pretension to equality is promptly repressed.

[wvwvw]

Wtf you talking about? What cultural genocide? How come providing them schools, churches and self-autonomy in most areas becomes a cultural genocide?

It`s obvious that you are brainwashed to the core with stupid fantasies like "secret church schools".

You are just a fool.

You don't even provide schools for the Kurds today, you really think the Ottomans provided schools for their Ottoman subjects? Karamanlides were not even allowed to speak Greek

Karamanlides