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    Quote Originally Posted by Ukko View Post
    I bet Viking Age or even more recent times, Russians took civilians to slavery in wars as a rule up in the 18th century, they sold them to Persia often.
    There are a lot of possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired View Post
    How in the world is your maternal line from Iraq but you have typical Finnish-Sami mtDNA U5b1b1a. That haplogroup is estimated to be only 4,000 years old and without doubt originated in northern Europe and quickly arrived in Scandinavia. I think there might be some type of mistake maybe whatever company you took a mtDNA test from had someone else's DNA. I know that most haplogroups especially in west Eurasia are very spread out for whatever reasons but U5b1b1a in Iraq sounds nuts. If you really have U5b1b1a than my best guess is maybe it was bounced around Indo European copper age Yamna and Corded ware cultures through trade and ended up in Iraq at some point. Maybe it arrived with Indo Iranian languages in that region. There are many possibilities your great times whatever grandmother could have been a slave in Rome and brought from outside the northern borders of the empire all the way to the near east.

    Actually that is his MtDNA believe it or not, and also his mom is quite atypical for an Iraqi, she is quite European looking actually. Plus on his 23andme he scores some minor Finnish, whoever it got there is indeed mysterious. I have told him to test his mom to find it out more in details. His mtDNA is quite rare for the people there, as their mtDNA seems to match with Arabian populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabatea1 View Post
    Actually that is his MtDNA believe it or not, and also his mom is quite atypical for an Iraqi, she is quite European looking actually. Plus on his 23andme he scores some minor Finnish, whoever it got there is indeed mysterious. I have told him to test his mom to find it out more in details. His mtDNA is quite rare for the people there, as their mtDNA seems to match with Arabian populations.
    What Arabian population does he match with? His mtDNA could be from recent Finnish or another related Uralic mixing.

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    I have U5a2 from my Maltese mother!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dál Riata View Post
    I have U5a2 from my Maltese mother!
    You probably have R1a L664(through Viking mixing) which is rare in Scotland, U5 is probably much more rare in Maltese than in average Europeans so U5a2 is a surprise. Out of any mtDNA haplogroup in the world I would want is U5, I wasn't surprised at all to learn I have U5b2a2. We are apart of the greatest lineage in the world, that's just fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Haired View Post
    You probably have R1a L664(through Viking mixing) which is rare in Scotland, U5 is probably much more rare in Maltese than in average Europeans so U5a2 is a surprise. Out of any mtDNA haplogroup in the world I would want is U5, I wasn't surprised at all to learn I have U5b2a2. We are apart of the greatest lineage in the world, that's just fact.
    We sure are brother! I never thought that mtDNA could be so interesting! I was expecting H or some kind of JT. To get U5 in Malta was a nice surprise! Tens of thousands of years in Ice Age Europe!

    I was expecting R1b-L21 for Y-DNA. My surname is supposedly descended from this medieval Celtic warrior!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerled
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/sci-tec...roots-1-709181

    He defeated the Vikings in 12th century Scotland. But as well as marrying a Viking princess, it seems he had Viking paternal ancestry himself. Norse Vikings intermarried with native Gaelic speaking Celts in the Hebrides and West coast of Scotland as well as parts of Ireland and the people there took on a mixed Celtic-Viking culture.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse%E2%80%93Gaels
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dál Riata View Post
    We sure are brother! I never thought that mtDNA could be so interesting! I was expecting H or some kind of JT. To get U5 in Malta was a nice surprise! Tens of thousands of years in Ice Age Europe!

    I was expecting R1b-L21 for Y-DNA. My surname is supposedly descended from this medieval Celtic warrior!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somerled
    http://www.scotsman.com/news/sci-tec...roots-1-709181

    He defeated the Vikings in 12th century Scotland. But as well as marrying a Viking princess, it seems he had Viking paternal ancestry himself. Norse Vikings intermarried with native Gaelic speaking Celts in the Hebrides and West coast of Scotland as well as parts of Ireland and the people there took on a mixed Celtic-Viking culture.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse%E2%80%93Gaels
    It is pretty incredible that your paternal line probably goes back to that Scottish hero who lived almost 1,000 years ago and that makes you Scottish royalty right? I had no idea Norse and Gealics had a such a close relationship. In admixtures I have seen it doesn't seem there is much Norse ancestry in Scotland but definitely some. There is definitely British-Irish ancestry though in Iceland and western Norway, because close to 20% of them have Y DNA R1b L21 and they have a higher percentage of red hair than Swedes.

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    I'd like to set a bookmark.
    This is all quite interesting. My mtDNA is U5b1b1.

    www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_U5_mtDNA.shtml

    U5b1b1: found across Europe and in the Maghreb

    U5b1b1a: found among the Saami (main and almost sole subclade), the Finns and the Yakuts
    U5b1b1b: found among the Berbers and the Fulbe from Senegal
    U5b1b1d: found in Spain and Italy.
    U5b1b1e: found among the Berbers
    U5b1b1f: found in Russia and Poland

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    I wish I could get to know some people with the same mtDNA, in order to see, if we have something in common. :-)

    Actually, one of my favourite hobbies is hunting, which was before I got the DNA-testing results. Strange although. I like nature, being outside and I moved house 5 times so far. I'm a bad homemaker, I don't care about decorating my house, and I own few but high-value things. Freedom is the most important thing for me.
    I'd like to know, if has something to do with genetics.

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    I know this discussion is kind of old, but I am U5a and I match most closely to an ancient person who was buried in Mongolia. See jpg below. Does that mean that he would be an uncle or close cousin? Other than close relatives, I can't find any match closer than this guy who lived 400-200 BCE.

    ancient-u5a.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debnik View Post
    I know this discussion is kind of old, but I am U5a and I match most closely to an ancient person who was buried in Mongolia. See jpg below. Does that mean that he would be an uncle or close cousin? Other than close relatives, I can't find any match closer than this guy who lived 400-200 BCE.

    ancient-u5a.JPG
    There has to be more than just you and him. Check this out

    https://www.geni.com/projects/U5a-mtDNA/4048

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