Introducing Latvia

[Pallantides]

Inese is entitled to her views, and they are not that removed from reality. You go girl!!

Her whole view is based on illusions and fantasy.

[Absinthe]

Her whole view is based on illusions and fantasy.

Now, that's so uncommon around our parts

[Jarl]

What the **** is Roy doing talking like this in this thread?! I went a bit off topic with my post, but at least it was in good humour, and has already taught me summat I hadn't known about Estonia and Latvian language. Inese has a German grandparent, she's entitled to her heritage, just as I am in Tipperary.

BUt where is then the point of the cut-off, Sir? Does 1/4 of foreign ancestry entitle me to take it up wholly (even when my native, first tongue is that of the remaining 3/4)? How about 1/8 or 1/32? Perhaps even I could "become" a German under such circumstances...


Besides, we are facing the problem of diluting, weakening or even germanising the remaining 3/4. A prospect which is not overly merry, particularly that Germany is richer and stronger than Latvia, and has, arguably, less problems with its population. If a 1/4 X person chose to convert entirely to his X ancestry, then in this very case this looks like sacrificing your poor 3/4 Latvian, for the rich prosperous 1/4 German... Definitely it's more justified than, say me converting and anglicising my (future) family, yet it still is a bit of a pretence. And most often the motivation in most such cases seems peculiarly the same... economical that is

[lei.talk]

Originally Posted by Loki
Inese is entitled to her views, and they are not that removed from reality. You go girl!!

Originally Posted by Pallantides Her whole view is based on illusions and fantasy.

that would seem to be a characterisation
painted with dismissively broad strokes.

generally, a person's weltanschauung is an attempt
to integrate an unconsciously developed ontology from childhood
with directly experienced observations in a later (more conscious) period
blended in with learned facts (during a self-aware term).


could you present some concrete examples
of her "whole view"
and the "illusions and fantasy" on which it is based?

even autistics and various schizo- types
are not so completely out of touch with reality
as she is portraited.

perhaps, if her critics had possessed the civility
to respond with ostensive facts - in stead of trollery and mocks...

[Äike]

I think it's pretty funny that we've got an Estonian telling us that Latvia is not Nordic but Estonia is and vice versa.

Go to Latvia and ask a Latvian if they think of themselves as Nordic people culturally related to Finns, Swedes and Danes. They'll laugh at you. They consider themselves to be Balts, that's as much as I know. Together with Lithuanians they think of us as not Balts, but Nordic people, who are more similar to Finns and Swedes than to Balts.

Hippo style: I think it's pretty funny that we've got a Yugoslav telling us anything about countries which he doesn't have a clue about.

[Pallantides]

that would seem to be a characterisation
painted with dismissively broad strokes.

generally, a person's weltanschauung is an attempt
to integrate an unconsciously developed ontology from childhood
with directly experienced observations in a later (more conscious) period
blended in with learned facts (during a self-aware term).


could you present some concrete examples
of her "whole view"
and the "illusions and fantasy" on which it is based?

even autistics and various schizo- types
are not so completely out of touch with reality
as she is portraited.

perhaps, if her critics had possessed the civility
to respond with ostensive facts - in stead of trollery and mocks...

Take a look through this thread.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...9&postcount=35
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...3&postcount=38



Balts are not Nordic people like Norwegians, Icelandics, Swedes and Danes, having specific phenotype like 'Nordid' don't make a person 'racially' Nordic.

A short, swarthy and dark eyed brachycephal from Western Norway is more Nordic than a tall, fair and light eyed dolichocephal Polak.

[Svanhild]

Blonde and tall she may be but those can also be found in parts of Africa, Australasia and South America. That doesn't make them German. Some Ghanain's and Turks also have German ancestry. That also doesn't make them ethnic or cultural Germans.

I'm afraid that I've to intervene here. We Germans have not even the slightest problems with visitors or immigrants from Scandinavian or Baltic countries. Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Finns, Latvians or Estonians: It doesn't matter. They're culturally and ethnically similar and don't pose a threat. Their mindset and character is near to ours.

Immigrants from the southernmost corner of Europe or from Non-European territories are the problem. I'd replace 10 Turks with 100 or even 1000 Swedes or Estonians any time.

And pardon my french, but I don't think Inese feels and thinks she's German. This very thread shows that she feels Latvian. Why else should she start a thread about her country and its versatility? Truth be told, her love for her nation is rather exemplary. As Loki said: You go girl!

[Falkata]

I'm afraid that I've to intervene here. We Germans have not even the slightest problems with visitors or immigrants from Scandinavian or Baltic countries. Swedes, Danes, Norwegians, Finns, Latvians or Estonians: It doesn't matter. They're culturally and ethnically similar and don't pose a threat. Their mindset and character is near to ours.

Immigrants from the southernmost corner of Europe or from Non-European territories are the problem. I'd replace 10 Turks with 100 or even 1000 Swedes or Estonians any time.

And pardon my french, but I don't think Inese feels and thinks she's German. This very thread shows that she feels Latvian. Why else should she start a thread about her country and its versatility? Truth be told, her love for her nation is rather exemplary. As Loki said: You go girl!

That´s your personal opinion. I´ve some german friends (one of my best friend´s gf is german) and they dont feel any kind of kindship with the immigrants from East Europe. Actually they use to make jokes about polish people, apparently they have a reputation of car thieves. Russians aren´t very well considered neither, so i dont think lituanians, latvians or ukranians have a special status in Germany neither. I dont think they prefer them over a italian for example.
Obviously turks are a different question

[Falkata]

Germans should be happy if they get tall blonde immigrants from Northern Europe and she has German ancestry.

The russians who destroyed their country just a few decades ago were as blond as the germans. I dont think the germans were very happy being raped and killed in Berlin by the red hordes

[Äike]

That´s your personal opinion. I´ve some german friends (one of my best friend´s gf is german) and they dont feel any kind of kindship with the immigrants from East Europe. Actually they use to make jokes about polish people, apparently they have a reputation of car thieves. Russians aren´t very well considered neither, so i dont think lituanians, latvians or ukranians have a special status in Germany neither. I dont think they prefer them over a italian for example.
Obviously turks are a different question

The russians who destroyed their country just a few decades ago were as blond as the germans. I dont think the germans were very happy being raped and killed in Berlin by the red hordes

Svanhild was talking about Northern European immigrants, not Eastern European immigrants.