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    Novi, before posting serbian propaganda I propose you use google translator. When you claim we never use U you have to face the consequences when you are exposed as serbian propagandist and liar.
    Shopi are bulgarized. So you can bulgarize a Bulgarian. Example that Serbian propaganda is more than stupid. Thats why only children (and Novi) believe in it.

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    I provide you a source, you don't debate it but attack me. This isn't Serbian propaganda, l'm stating it as it is, once more:

    The preposition (and prefix) "у" ("u") is used instead of "в" ("v"). Example: Shopski у градо (u grado) vs standard Bulgarian в града (v grada) (in town)

    The personal pronouns for the third person are masc. on (он), fem. ona (она); neut. ono (оно), pl. oni (они).

    The personal pronoun for the first person singular is ja (я) instead of az (аз).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopi

    So why do the Bulgarianised Serbs known as Shopi say the English word (IN) as U but not in Bulgarian fashion V?

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    Novi Pazar, to me the Shop dialect seems to be a even cross between standard Serbian, Bulgarian and Macedonian. the switch between 'v' to 'u' does not make it a Serbian dialect.

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    U think I need source TO KNOW MY MOTHER LANGUAGE??? How old are you? 10. Any Bulgarian would tell u we use U just like V. Go read your USELESS PROPAGANDA "sources".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Novi Pazar, to me the Shop dialect seems to be a even cross between standard Serbian, Bulgarian and Macedonian. the switch between 'v' to 'u' does not make it a Serbian dialect.
    I understand you brate, l agree that language should not be used as a reason to link people (ethnicities) to a certain nation, its culture, migration and history. In the Balkans, slavic has become many dialects from a mother of all. However, what l'm doing here is being a counter-weight to ridiculous claims being made by Bulgarians.

    Get the Bulgarians to explain why Torlakian/Shopi use On, Ona, Oni not Toj, Tya, Toe etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioan assen View Post
    U think I need source TO KNOW MY MOTHER LANGUAGE??? How old are you? 10. Any Bulgarian would tell u we use U just like V. Go read your USELESS PROPAGANDA "sources".
    So the Serbo-Croatian *U* is Bulgarian, you are deludued Ioan! Serbo-Croats don't use V nor do Torlakian/Shopi say MlYAko but MlEko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    I understand you brate, l agree that language should not be used as a reason to link people (ethnicities) to a certain nation, its culture, migration and history. In the Balkans, slavic has become many dialects from a mother of all. However, what l'm doing here is being a counter-weight to ridiculous claims being made by Bulgarians.

    Get the Bulgarians to explain why Torlakian/Shopi use On, Ona, Oni not Toj, Tya, Toe etc....
    Well that's fair enough. In Macedonian we use... mas: Toj, Onaj. fem: Taa, Ona. And we also use Oni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Well that's fair enough. In Macedonian we use... mas: Toj, Onaj. fem: Taa, Ona. And we also use Oni.
    We say ''On'' in Skopje.. ''Onaj'' is used in Western Macedonian dialects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bugarash View Post
    Macedonian empire
    nice one

    Do you have proof that there are Russians in Moscow?
    That there is a mosque in Mecca?
    why do u laugh? Alexander's empire was called "Macedonian empire" all until englishmen J. G. Droysen in mid 19th century dubbed it to be called hellenistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    This is just a thread showing information on the Macedonian language and dialects. I will start off with maps.









    Taken from the book “The Indo-European Languages” edited by Anna Giacalone Ramat and Paul Ramat, 1998, page 416.


    Source: "A Historical Phonology Of the Macedonian Language" by Blazhe Koneski

    This map shows the distribution of the Macedonian dialects within Macedonia
    So someone from Bitola speaks like someone from Skopje? Interesting......

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