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    Quote Originally Posted by HellLander87 View Post
    roflmao.Your ancestors did claim to be bulgarians though.
    True, provided that they were educated in a Bulgarian exarchate school. Otherwise, most people were peasants with no clear ethnic conscience. The majority chose to identify with their village or region.

    With the introduction of nationalism in the Balkans, we, the Slavic speaking inhabitants of Macedonia chose freely to be one entity with our Slavic speaking brothers to the east, and eventually taking up arms together against our common enemy, the Ottomans. But even through our national awakening process, we still had a very strong regional Macedonian identity.

    So yes, our intellectuals did call themselves Bulgarians, but Macedonians at the same time. Bulgarians is the name that united all South East Slavs since the Middle Ages right through to Balkan nationalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    True, provided that they were educated in a Bulgarian exarchate school. Otherwise, most people were peasants with no clear ethnic conscience. The majority chose to identify with their village or region.

    With the introduction of nationalism in the Balkans, we, the Slavic speaking inhabitants of Macedonia chose freely to be one entity with our Slavic speaking brothers to the east, and eventually taking up arms together against our common enemy, the Ottomans. But even through our national awakening process, we still had a very strong regional Macedonian identity.

    So yes, our intellectuals did call themselves Bulgarians, but Macedonians at the same time. Bulgarians is the name that united all South East Slavs since the Middle Ages right through to Balkan nationalism.
    Yes, but what about before the Exarchate? the Exarchate is not the be-all and end-all of the story.

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    хаиде да свагаме македония до балгария, хаиде, хаиде, хаиде, приятели

    ты, сокол, ты что (is that correct? like the russian tschto?) не си като Войник?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokol View Post
    Yes, but what about before the Exarchate? the Exarchate is not the be-all and end-all of the story.
    Search: Paisius of Hilendar. Born in Bansko, Pirinsko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    True, provided that they were educated in a Bulgarian exarchate school. Otherwise, most people were peasants with no clear ethnic conscience. The majority chose to identify with their village or region.

    With the introduction of nationalism in the Balkans, we, the Slavic speaking inhabitants of Macedonia chose freely to be one entity with our Slavic speaking brothers to the east, and eventually taking up arms together against our common enemy, the Ottomans. But even through our national awakening process, we still had a very strong regional Macedonian identity.

    So yes, our intellectuals did call themselves Bulgarians, but Macedonians at the same time. Bulgarians is the name that united all South East Slavs since the Middle Ages right through to Balkan nationalism.
    Damn it, that's complicated, why officially macedonian identity have been seperated from bulgarian?!! I haven't been that much into history

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machete View Post
    Damn it, that's complicated, why officially macedonian identity have been seperated from bulgarian?!! I haven't been that much into history
    It was a decision of the Comintern and Stalin, the purpose of it was to tackle Balkan nationalism and to reconcile Yugoslavia and Bulgaria and possibly create an even bigger post WWII Yugoslavia which would include Bulgaria and a united Macedonia with access to the Aegean coast. It was implemented without the consent of the people and was only possible because of the long Serbian occupation of Vardar Macedonia, which drove a wedge between the Bulgarians from both sides of the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Search: Paisius of Hilendar. Born in Bansko, Pirinsko.
    Why did he publish his works? What were the people calling themselves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morski View Post
    It was a decision of the Comintern and Stalin, the purpose of it was to tackle Balkan nationalism and to reconcile Yugoslavia and Bulgaria and possibly create an even bigger post WWII Yugoslavia which would include Bulgaria and a united Macedonia with access to the Aegean coast. It was implemented without the consent of the people and was only possible because of the long Serbian occupation of Vardar Macedonia, which drove a wedge between the Bulgarians from both sides of the border.
    Perhaps, but was it such a bad idea ie., union of all South Slavs, in which Macedonia would be united? I don't like the Communist part, but the idea is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokol View Post
    Perhaps, but was it such a bad idea ie., union of all South Slavs, in which Macedonia would be united? I don't like the Communist part, but the idea is good.
    Ye... the idea is good! Me personally have got nothing against it... it's the revision of history in order to fit the new Macedonism what's bothering me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by morski View Post
    Ye... the idea is good! Me personally have got nothing against it... it's the revision of history in order to fit the new Macedonism what's bothering me!
    Strike that. Was drunk while typing it. Bulgaria is not federation material.

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