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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    Noone have ever called them this way.
    This is probably how Skopjians of Greece call themselves. Greeks don't use it.
    I had in mind the present day Slaphone Greek Macedonians. Maybe they call themselves that way. I thought that Graecophone Macedonians also refer to them as dopii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morski View Post
    I had in mind the present day Slaphone Greek Macedonians. Maybe they call themselves that way. I thought that Graecophone Macedonians also refer to them as dopii.
    Ιn that video, there are only Slavophones of Greece. In reality, I have never met anyone, let along a Greek calling them this way.

    The funny is that the guy asks:
    If there was a Turk here, would he understand what you are saying?
    They say No
    If there was a Bulgarian here, would he understand what you are saying?
    They said, yes but not everyhting
    And then a woman says '' Serbs, only Slavs of Serbia would''

    And the end was priceless

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    Ιn that video, there are only Slavophones of Greece
    Do not lie. The woman at the left side speaks Turkish and she gives an example that they count in Turkish and the others in the town in Bulgarian.

    This is your so-called "Greek Macedonia". There are only slavic speaking Macedonians and Turkish christians from Anatolia. She says "Bulgarian, Serbian" because it`s something forbidden to call that slavic language as Macedonian in Greece.

    Btw, the presenters speech in the end of the video makes things obvious. This is just a video to serve to the stupid hellenic propaganda. They speak Turkish and Macedonian but they feel "patriada ellines" !!! poor victims of the Greek assimilation machine, i pity for these people.

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    Eastern Thrace is apart of Anatolia. Macedonia is greater than that besides that's why they call one Macedonia ( Greek one ) and Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romanion View Post
    She identifies as Greek Macedonian, but she calls the language Macedonian not Bulgarian.
    This is where issue is stated. Just like USA Greeks practise the same form. If you are black in USA you are Afro American. If you are Slavic speaker in Greece you are Greek Macedonian. If you are Hellenic speaker in northern Greece you are Greek Macedonian.
    Can two people be Greek Macedonian when their heritage is completely different? No.
    I'm not Swedish Macedonian, I'm Macedonian, and there is no Slavic Macedonia, there is only Macedonia.
    And this is the issue with the name issue about Macedonia. Why should a country be named after the language it is speaking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur View Post
    Do not lie. The woman at the left side speaks Turkish and she gives an example that they count in Turkish and the others in the town in Bulgarian.
    I didn't notice that she counts on Turkish. I only heard unknown languages by all of those in video.
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    This is your so-called "Greek Macedonia". There are only slavic speaking Macedonians and Turkish christians from Anatolia. She says "Bulgarian, Serbian" because it`s something forbidden to call that slavic language as Macedonian in Greece..
    No, Macedonia is a big region, and not a village in Florina, Onur.
    And unlike you, or anyone there, I lived for many years, and I am from there, from my father's side.

    Not at all. They say that they speak something different from Turkish, Greek, Bulgarian, and only a Serb could understand everything.

    Btw, the presenters speech in the end of the video makes things obvious. This is just a video to serve to the stupid hellenic propaganda. They speak Turkish and Macedonian but they feel "patriada ellines" !!! poor victims of the Greek assimilation machine, i pity for these people.
    Assimiliation my ass. Why Voskopoulos doesn't feel Greek? Why the members of Rainbow doesn't feel Greek?
    Why others, of stupid videos posted by Fyromians, doesn't feel Greek?
    We are either bad in assimiliation, or something doesn't add right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gapaldur View Post
    This is where issue is stated. Just like USA Greeks practise the same form. If you are black in USA you are Afro American. If you are Slavic speaker in Greece you are Greek Macedonian. If you are Hellenic speaker in northern Greece you are Greek Macedonian.
    If he is a Slavic speaker (and doesn't feel like Greek), is not a Greek Macedonian or a Macedonian Greek, he is a Fyromian that holds Greek nationality.He is not Greek and no Greek would ever see him as such.
    If he feels like Greek,and he is from that place, then he is Greek.
    , I'm Macedonian, and there is no Slavic Macedonia, there is only Macedonia
    Exactly, since antiquity, and itis a beautiful region in Greece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    If he is a Slavic speaker (and doesn't feel like Greek), is not a Greek Macedonian or a Macedonian Greek, he is a Fyromian that holds Greek nationality.He is not Greek and no Greek would ever see him as such.
    If he feels like Greek,and he is from that place, then he is Greek.
    Greeks never saw Macedonians as Greeks so you are right there.

    Quote Originally Posted by dandelion View Post
    Exactly, since antiquity, and itis a beautiful region in Greece.
    That's because in antiquity the borders where right, and the people where white

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gapaldur View Post
    Greeks never saw Macedonians as Greeks so you are right there.
    Greeks always saw Macedonians as Greeks.
    But Macedonians =/= Serbo-Bulgarians that call themselves Macedonians, from Fyrob

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    Yes the ones who are mentally ill do. ^

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    I don't understand the arguement about Greek Macedonians because some of them came from Anatolia they are somehow less Greek than others. I don't understand the slavic arguement that they are somehow more Macedonian than the pontic migrants because the slavs arn't native to Macedonia either.

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