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    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    I thought this was common to most Abrahamic religions?
    Judaism and Christianity do, Islam goes with same story as pre-Islamic monotheists of Arabia in which world and universe was created in stages+splitting of heavens and earth.


    Quote Originally Posted by Albion View Post
    The Middle Easterners in the past had military forces which Europeans could only have dreamt of at that time. Now it's kind of the opposite - yay progress!
    Yup Islam did spread as the first Caliphate expanded but the conversions of the local population were not "instantaneous and bloody" as our Njemački friend is trying to portray. First Caliphate was based on having an educated elite ruling class providing superior form of government/services to the "infidel" masses in exchange of their loyalty, extra taxes and to be called into service depending on the need of the Caliphate. With the numbers of converts rising trough longer period of time to improve their standing in the society. Bluntly put it if Caliphate practiced "convert or die" policy Islam would have died out in decades after leaving it's Arabian womb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dilberth View Post
    It says nowhere in the bible how old world is.
    Chronology of the Bible says so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vanguard View Post
    Yup Islam did spread as the first Caliphate expanded but the conversions of the local population were not "instantaneous and bloody" as our Njemački friend is trying to portray.
    It was not the conversion occurred because people simply need change, as well the political implications to alley with the Arabian forces rather than be under Persian and Byzantine oppression. As well both the Persians and Byzantines have occupied lands of ethnic groups that resented them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vangurad
    First Caliphate was based on having an educated elite ruling class providing superior form of government/services to the "infidel" masses in exchange of their loyalty, extra taxes and to be called into service depending on the need of the Caliphate.
    Indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by Vrhbosnian Vangurad
    With the numbers of converts rising trough longer period of time to improve their standing in the society. Bluntly put it if Caliphate practiced "convert or die" policy Islam would have died out in decades after leaving it's Arabian womb.
    It's a myth that the Arabian armies forced everyone to convert, and anyone who knows little about the history of the Middle East, knows this is not the case. If that was to be the case, Islam would have never became successful in spread at a rapid rate, nor the locals would have converted to it. As the locals often had little to resist or alley with the Arabians. As well Islam spread to SouthEast Asia due to Arab traders not conquests, as well into the Caucasus by Persian traders and Crimean missionaries, and in some parts of Russia by Arab traders and missionaries. It was nothing more than the oppressive, discriminatory policies of the Byzantines and Persians that helped the Arabian armies be successful and ensured Islamic domination of the Middle East. Judaism was never forcefully removed from Arabia and was the most tolerated faith, as there is community of Saudi and Yemenite Jews mostly found in Najran and Yemen to this day.
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    Yeah right, dhimmitude is another way in which islam expanded. You have freedom of religion, you only have to pay for it... now that´s great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
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    A society is measured by it's majority. The majority being the middle class. The basic economic formula emphasizes the middle class. . . a flourishing middle class is a flourishing society. We are discussing an economic problem, thus it requires an economic solution. There are vile, sadistic, vicious, and cruel creatures with religious brains all over the world. The problem in the middle east is again, no middle class. Therefore, the economic formula is in shambles. The status quo is a ongoing deliberate attempt to widen the deficit between the rich and the poor. . . at the risk of being percieved as redundant, again due to no middle class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damião de Góis View Post
    I don't think Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Kuwait are so backwards, or Oman and Saudi Arabia in terms of GDP per capita at least. Qatar usually tops GDP per capita rankings in fact.

    Lol, they get money from the West and have their entire cities built on the backs of laboring Indians

    They are nothing without their oil sands

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    Applies for almost every Muslim country TBH. Countries like Turkey, Iran, Pakistan are also heading backwards due to governing style and militant Islamism grappling the masses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contra Mundum View Post
    http://www.instablogs.com/entry/why-...-so-backwards/


    While Arabs are, of course, innately no different than other people, their region has fallen behind the rest of the world and is incredibly backwards.
    Ah, Americans and their common cult of equality that 'all peoples beez equalz and shiznit niggas !"

    Quote Originally Posted by Contra Mundum
    Arabs have prospered outside of the region, Arab-Americans and Arab-Brazilians, for instance, are incredibly successfully. But why can't Arabs duplicate this success in the Arab world? Why is Arab achievement - as often the case - only possible in the Americas and the West?
    Define 'success' : I mean wtf you show no mathematics here -- what are you a moron or something ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Contra Mundum

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    No a single Arab nation is a established democracy.
    ...

    America needs to be invaded because it is not a Democracy. Maybe , the British can burn down the white house again and shove a sock in your bitch ass mouth punk ?

    Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy :

    https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746




    Quote Originally Posted by Contra Mundum
    These are incredibly dismal statistics. The sad fate of the Arabs will only get worse in years to come if radical reform is not enacted. By 2020, the region needs to create 51 million jobs just to offer its youth opportunity for a better future. How the Arabs will create so many jobs in a decade given the current state of their economies is beyond any responsible estimation.

    The region is backwards and horribly so? But why? A fashionable theory is that Islam - after ushering in the golden age of scientific and litrary achievements - then stifled innovation and critical thinking. But this is false since Turkey is 99% Muslim and under a midly Islamist government while its economy is booming.
    What do Americans know about critical thinking and science etc... ? American culture is anti-intellectual and you import your STEM workers with H1-B visas because native Americans are morons like you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Contra Mundum
    The Arab world has fallen behind due to two key factors: tyranny and oil.

    1) Tyranny: Arab dictatorship has rendered critical thinking a thing of the past. Arab education is little more than memory thinking. Schools rarely encourage thoughtful debates or innovation as dictatorships care more about keeping their population dumb and timid than about fostering an creative society. The tyranny in the Arab world also often ensures that the best minds feel to a free place and the Arab world offers no such free place.
    America is a huge tyranny since it is not a Democracy and does not have a proportional representation system. WTF kind of drugs are you on moron ? Stop smoking crack cocaine or doing mushrooms and weed etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by Contra Mundrum
    The condition right now is just sad. But it is not too late for an Arab renaissance.
    The condition , right now, is sad for America , yes. It is not too late to spread your ass cheeks for the British or Germans/French etc...

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