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    Quote Originally Posted by pinguino View Post
    Terrible and biased article. It forgot the contribution to the world of many peoples, starting from the Middle Ages Muslims, the Chinese, the Amerindians and the peoples of India. Yes, the Industrial Revolution and the Scientific Revolution were very important, but.... but... Euro-centrism sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatar View Post
    Sorry but this is bullshit and on the contrary mostly of "european" invention were invented by jews, armenian and georgian. Later I will do I list when I will have more time but I can say that they invented far more than french
    Some by jews, the rest? Hah.
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    While I agree that the modern world was crafted by Western Europeans, although this was for their own purposes and not as a selfless gift to humanity. I am cognizant of the fact that Western Civilization is primarily responsible for most of the technological, economic and social progress of the past few centuries. To be fair, for a millenia prior to the modern age, Europe was quite backward in comparison to other Eurasian civilizations, and Europe also borrowed heavily in terms of innovations in technology, society, economics, etc. Guns, Cannons, movable rudders, movable sails, watertight compartments, compasses were all Chinese inventions and Columbus would not have been able to sail to the Americas without these inventions, and that was really the catalyst for the rise of Western Europe. With that said however, I admire Western Civilization for the progress it's brought to humanity in the last few centuries. With the increasingly democratic access to technology, education and wealth and the rise of China and India, I think the future will also see many innovations being contributed again by non-Western countries, especially China and India.

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    Ranking of ethnicities who played major role

    1. British (English + Scottish + a little from Irish)

    2. German (if German Jews are added, German will match British)

    3. Italian & Greek (strong foundations given by Greeks in various fields, Renaissance by Italy, many modern inventions by Italy)

    4. French & Jews (any type)

    5. Chinese

    6. Russians, Dutch, Scandinavians

    7. Indians, Arabs, Persians (these people were fucked up and stalled when European started emerging)

    8. Japanese, Koreans, Other Europeans, etc

    9. other non-SSA

    10. SSA (no one below them)


    Major Indian inventions are Yoga, simplification of numbers (0 to 9 were invented by Indians), Chess and so many important stuff in mathematics (Fibonacci, trigonometric functions, etc), agriculture, medicine are in the following link
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...nd_discoveries
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    why failed state like Greece so high?
    They had some major role in long long past, but what they contributed in last 1000 years? Those who place Greece high should place as high as Greece middle eastern ancient states as well. But they are usualy forgotten, because they are brown now obviously.
    And how come chinese above russians or dutch?
    my contribution ranking will be
    countires in each grade is not any particular order
    grade 1 - Germany, Britain
    grade 2 - France, USA
    grade 3 - Russia, Italy, Dutch states
    grade 4 - countries with some minor but notable achievments - Sweden, Austria,
    grade 5 - ancient cradles of civilization like Greece, Sumer etc
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    i expect countries like China, Korea and some other will have great contribution in a future, but for now their education system is only forming and their states are generaly backward to be place for innovations, but eventually they should be able to move from copying and improving to real inventions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glasses View Post
    why failed state like Greece so high?
    They had some major role in long long past, but what they contributed in last 1000 years? Those who place Greece high should place as high as Greece middle eastern ancient states as well. But they are usualy forgotten, because they are brown now obviously.
    And how come chinese above russians or dutch?
    my contribution ranking will be
    countires in each grade is not any particular order
    grade 1 - Germany, Britain
    grade 2 - France, USA
    grade 3 - Russia, Italy, Dutch states
    grade 4 - countries with some minor but notable achievments - Sweden, Austria,
    grade 5 - ancient cradles of civilization like Greece, Sumer etc
    ...
    ...
    ...
    rest

    i expect countries like China, Korea and some other will have great contribution in a future, but for now their education system is only forming and their states are generaly backward to be place for innovations, but eventually they should be able to move from copying and improving to real inventions.
    The only period that Greeks contributed little was when Greeks were under Ottoman rule. Even then, the Greeks who fled to Italy contributed to the European Renaissance. The Byzantine empire contributed quite a lot, even the Cyrillic Alphabet you now use was invented by two Greek monks from Thessaloniki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plateau View Post
    The only period that Greeks contributed little was when Greeks were under Ottoman rule. Even then, the Greeks who fled to Italy contributed to the European Renaissance. The Byzantine empire contributed quite a lot, even the Cyrillic Alphabet you now use was invented by two Greek monks from Thessaloniki.

    Mighty Greeks role in forming European civilization, science, medicine, etc are debunked by other Europeans without any proper reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plateau View Post
    The only period that Greeks contributed little was when Greeks were under Ottoman rule. Even then, the Greeks who fled to Italy contributed to the European Renaissance. The Byzantine empire contributed quite a lot, even the Cyrillic Alphabet you now use was invented by two Greek monks from Thessaloniki.
    cyrillic alphabet is very minor achievment to be honest. cyrillic, latin or even posibile shittilic could serve jsut as well.
    Any particular alphabet is not important unlike literacy itself which was invented in Sumer (Sumer is in grade 5, so they are not forgotten)
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    Quote Originally Posted by glasses View Post
    why failed state like Greece so high?
    They had some major role in long long past, but what they contributed in last 1000 years? Those who place Greece high should place as high as Greece middle eastern ancient states as well. But they are usualy forgotten, because they are brown now obviously.
    And how come chinese above russians or dutch?
    my contribution ranking will be
    countires in each grade is not any particular order
    grade 1 - Germany, Britain
    grade 2 - France, USA
    grade 3 - Russia, Italy, Dutch states
    grade 4 - countries with some minor but notable achievments - Sweden, Austria,
    grade 5 - ancient cradles of civilization like Greece, Sumer etc
    ...
    ...
    ...
    rest

    i expect countries like China, Korea and some other will have great contribution in a future, but for now their education system is only forming and their states are generaly backward to be place for innovations, but eventually they should be able to move from copying and improving to real inventions.
    Why is Germany ahead of France? France contributed more than Germany.

    Greeks are high because of their contribution to western civilization in general. They invented and brought about many original concepts. Its a shame that everyone goes gaga over Rome though. Greeks deserve more credit than Romans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valhallan View Post
    Why is Germany ahead of France? France contributed more than Germany.
    i disagree

    reeks are high because of their contribution to western civilization in general. They invented and brought about many original concepts. Its a shame that everyone goes gaga over Rome though. Greeks deserve more credit than Romans.
    greek original concepts related to modern civilization as same as legend about Daedalus and Icarus related to spaceflight
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