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    Најинтересно е што сите викате дека Климент и Наум се бугари, а во вашата традиција немате имиња Климент и Наум. Да не беа македонските иселеници и денес овие имиња немаше да се користат во Бугарија.

    За цар Самуил се испотепавме, а не сум наишол на ниеден македонец или бугарин да се вика Самуил.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan559 View Post
    македонски се дечко, нема грци со имиња Трпе, Стрезо, Климент, Велјан, Силјан, Сандре. А и многу други. Нема ни бугари со вакви имиња

    The names you have listed are predominantly Christian and Greek.

    No, only macedonian.
    Търпе и Стрезо са регионални имена типични само за западна България и Македония.

    Сандре е форма на Александър.

    Климент, Велиян, Силян ги има в цяла България.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan559 View Post
    Најинтересно е што сите викате дека Климент и Наум се бугари, а во вашата традиција немате имиња Климент и Наум. Да не беа македонските иселеници и денес овие имиња немаше да се користат во Бугарија.

    За цар Самуил се испотепавме, а не сум наишол на ниеден македонец или бугарин да се вика Самуил.
    Аз познавам много българи с имената Климент, Наум и Самуил. Но както в България, така и в Македония, народа си кръщава децата на светци, а не на царе или исторически личности.

    Жалко е само, че в Македония сръбските имена са много.

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    Велјан, Силјан, Трпе, Стрезо се исклучиво македонски имиња и се користат само во западна Македонија. Во Бугарија може да ги носат потомците на преселници од западна Македонија.

    Е тоа ти е. Се уништија македонските имиња, почнаа да се ставаат секакви имиња, само не македонски. Имиња како Драган, Зоран, Горан, се носат низ цела бишва југославија, па така и во македонија почнале да стануваат попопуларни. Имиња кои се исклучиво Србски (како Душан, Урош, Немања, Вукашин, Милорад, Небојша, и др) се многу слабо застапени.

    За името Горан дури може да се каже дека го имало и порано, например, Тале ГОРАНов. Значи презимето е дојдено по некој предок Горан.

    Јас и за името Лука мислев порано не се носело во Македонија, па прочитав за еден револуционер дека се викал Лука Групчев.

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    To date, science has little information about the life and activities of St. Clement. In Ohrid, various stories are told of him and his companion St. Naum. More authentic information is provided by the lives of St. Clement and St. Naum, written by their students and by the Archbishops of Ohrid. It is not known exactly where he came from, but he was undoubtedly a Slav. For St. Kliment Bulgaria, as his biographer Theophilact Ohridski (1084 - 1107) says, in "Spacious Life" was a loving, coveted land. The same biographer calls him the first bishop to serve and preach in Bulgarian (πρῶτοζ εν βουλαρω γλωσση επισκοπος). Another biographer, Archbishop Dimitar Homathian of Ohrid (1216 to 1234), apparently calls him Bulgarian. The other is one life of Clement by another Archbishop of Ohrid, also Greek - Dimitri Khomatian (1216 - 1234) - known as the "Short Life" or the so-called. Ohrid legend.
    In the early years of Clement, both lives gave scant information. Only The Short Life mentions Clement's nationality
    „ Този наш отец и светилник на България бил по род от европейските мизи, които народът обикновено знае като българи.“/ "This Bulgarian father and beacon of Bulgaria was one of the European masses that the people usually know as Bulgarians."
    It is believed that he may have been born in present-day Southwestern Bulgaria or present-day Macedonia. At the council in Preslav (893), Clement was elected "the first bishop in the Bulgarian language". As a priest and bishop, he worked tirelessly for 30 years (886-916) to promote the Christian faith among his people.
    Saint Naum Information about his life before arriving in Bulgaria is scarce. According to one of his lives, he was born in Moesia, "by noble parents." The information about St. Naum derives mostly from his life, the earliest, of which he is Slavic and dates from the first quarter of the Xth century, from the Preface to the Gospel from Bishop Konstantin Preslavsky (X century) and from the only known work of St. Naum - Canon for the Apostle Andrew so far. The second Slavic life of St. Naum, probably dating from the sixteenth century, provides information that is not found elsewhere. It states: "This Reverend and Grand Father Naum Branch in Moesia." By Moesia, the Bulgarian lands were designated in the medieval Greek springs. In Pliska and the surrounding area, St. Naum remained until 893. At that time, St. Clement was appointed bishop, and in his place as teacher and head of education in the Kutmichevitsa district in present-day Macedonia, St. Naum was appointed.
    ...Even if a man lives well, he dies and another one comes into existence. Let the one who comes later upon seeing this inscription remember the one who had made it. And the name is Omurtag, Kanasubigi.

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    The name Velyana is supposed to be derived from the Old Slavic great - "great," "great," as well as from the word yana, meaning water. Therefore the name Velyana could also be interpreted as a large water (river), since water is one of the symbols of life.
    Siljan from Salan - a Bulgarian committee (governor) of a border area on the territory of present-day Vojvodina in the 9th century. The only information about Salan is provided by the Hungarian Anonymous Chronicle (Gesta Hungarorum). It is said that Salan is the uncle of the Bulgarian king Simeon. After 896 or Slavic etymology for a name of desirable character for strength and courage Voino, Boyko, Strahil, Silian, Chest
    Страж (Стрез)- стражар watchman Ancient Bulgarian words, from which comes the derivative word "stratsin" - fortress, sentries and the name Stratsimir (fasting, guard).
    ...Even if a man lives well, he dies and another one comes into existence. Let the one who comes later upon seeing this inscription remember the one who had made it. And the name is Omurtag, Kanasubigi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan559 View Post
    Најинтересно е што сите викате дека Климент и Наум се бугари, а во вашата традиција немате имиња Климент и Наум. Да не беа македонските иселеници и денес овие имиња немаше да се користат во Бугарија.

    За цар Самуил се испотепавме, а не сум наишол на ниеден македонец или бугарин да се вика Самуил.
    Самоил бил Ерменец

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    For all Bulgarians who wannabe Makedonski pichove
    Italian newspapper 1908year


    - Macedonian revolutionary Jane Sandanski and one of his quotes in the Italian newspaper “L’Italia all’Estero” 1908, he says: “"Macedonians will liberate Macedonia without interfering from the neighboring states: in Macedonia there should be no Bulgarians, no Greeks, no Serbs, no Romanians, no Turks, but only Macedonians." ��


    Dino G. Kʹosev - a Bulgarian historian in his 1954 book “History of the Macedonian National Revolutionary Movement”
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    Those junk you post have no credibility at all.
    Yane Sandanski was a Bulgarian communist who promoted the creation of a separate ''Macedonian'' state like all the leftists of his era.
    But fortunately we teach you a lesson in Balkan wars

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