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Thread: Whoa re closer relatives to Macedonians, Serbs or Bulgarians?

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    Best said. =

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    Bulgarians, with exeption of northern Macedonians.

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    Somethin in between, but Bulgars more.

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    Bulgarians

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    I guess you mean vardaskian,so i think bulgarians.

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    Look at my new signature. Hope you like it.

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    It wasn't Serbian propaganda that turned Bulgarians into Skopians. It was Croatian propaganda that did so, as Tito was a Croat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area51Defender View Post
    It wasn't Serbian propaganda that turned Bulgarians into Skopians. It was Croatian propaganda that did so, as Tito was a Croat.
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
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    Admit that Skopia is a creation of the Comintern and the truth will set you free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area51Defender View Post
    Admit that Skopia is a creation of the Comintern and the truth will set you free.
    It's not Croatian propaganda. Serbians and Greeks were working on this for a while before Tito sealed the deal :

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonian_nationalism

    First Greek schools taught them about Alexander in order to convert them to Greeks, but that gave a boost to the regional Macedonian identity instead.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedo..._Alexandar.jpg

    Later this guy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stojan_Novakovi%C4%87 "was instrumental in organizing a huge network of Serbian consulates, secular and religious Serbian schools and Serb religious institutions throughout Turkey-in-Europe, in particular in Kosovo, Metohija and Macedonia between Skopje and Monastir (Bitolj, Bitola)" He saw the potential and used the Macedonian regional identity to "counteract the Bulgarian influence in Macedonia, claiming the Macedonian Slavs were in fact pure Slavs (i.e. Serbian Macedonians), while the Bulgarians, unlike them, were partially a mixture of Slavs and Bulgars (i.e. Tatars).[22] In accordance with Novaković's agenda this Serbian "Macedonism" was transformed in the 1890s, in a process of the gradual Serbianisation of the Macedonian Slavs.[23]"

    Both Greece and Serbia were aiming at taking control over them, but instead that backfired and inflated the regional identity into a separate ethnicity.

    Serbia took over Vardar in the First Balkan War, just banned anything that has to do with "Bulgaria" or "Macedonia" and called the region "South Serbia". The natural resistance to that was the Macedonian idea, since Bulgaria couldn't intervene after the disastrous Second Balkan War. That's why even the Bulgarian government supported the Macedonian idea at one point - https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92...B1%D0%BE%D1%80 ( couldn't find the page in English, just translate it )
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbia...rdar_Macedonia

    Greeks had bigger success by the population exchanges with Turkey after the Greco-Turkish War, when "Over one million Greek Orthodox Christians were displaced; most of them were resettled in Attica and the newly incorporated Greek territories of Macedonia and Thrace and were exchanged with about 500,000 Muslims displaced from Greek territories."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greco-...%E2%80%931922)

    A couple of years later Tito came as the messiah dealing with the last remaining people with Bulgarian sentiments( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Christmas_(1945) ), recognizing the Socialist Republic of Macedonia, codifying their separate Macedonian language and stopping the opened and aggressive Serbianisation which was considered a big win for Macedonian people. And here we are now, a couple of generations later, where Macedonians call Bulgarians Mongol-Tatars

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