Who are the Pontic Greeks?

[Sikeliot]

Probably partially Greek and partially Anatolian.

[El Gre]

[QUOTE=Onur;918068]

Pontic Greeks are mix of different peoples like Georgians, local Laz people, Turks, Greeks and christian Tatar Turks from northern Blacksea.

Anybody else, why not through in Armenians as well while your at it

Btw, i have to say that the most mingled population of Anatolia was the rural people around Blacksea. So, intermarrying among muslim and christians was so common among them unlike the other parts of Turkey. Thats why, the culture, clothing of today`s muslim Blacksea people are exactly same as the so-called Pontic Greeks.

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What the flying fuk does 'so called' Pontic Greeks supposed to mean.Those muslims are most likely Pontic Greeks who converted thats why they dress and dance the same. I know your a dumb swine but your not claiming the Pyhrric dance as some kind of Turkish dance and the lyre as some instrument brought by mongols on horseback are you Haivan?

Before the population exchange of 1923, christians was using a language called Romaika, an amalgam of Turkish and Byzantine Greek with some minor Georgian vocabulary. It was mostly foreign to Istanbul/Izmir Greek and completely alien to today`s modern Greek language. Unfortunately this unique language of blacksea christians has been regarded as ottomanism/turkism in modern Greece and deliberately erased, forgotten after they gone to Greece but today there are few people in Turkey who can still speak this language.

The language was a Greek dialect with Turkish loan words , is that what you meant to say, i mean to have the nerve and put Turkish first shows what kind of a Haivan you really are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAULHO_sTxc

You see Budala, the 100 year old man named Salih might be a muslim but listen to him speak at 4:00 minutes and tell me what he says . Me and any other Greek can pretty much get the gist, i bet you can pick out 2-3 words, give your best shot Mangoof.

Deliberately erased, Otommanism? Turkism? You swine, Greeks have very strong regionalism but none will deny that Pontic Greek is the closest dialect today resemebling ancient Greek. The reason it is dying out is normal, after a few generations more it will be lost, it is very unfortunate but thats not deliberate that happens everywhere.

[El Gre]

I couldn't care less about their origins. I just know there are far too many of them in Aegean Macedonia. They claim they are decendants of ancient Macedonians when in fact they arrived in Aegean Macedonia in the 1920s

The difference between them and you is quite simple, If your hero Alexander rose from the dead and needed directions to find his fathers tomb in Vergina , your peasant grandad speaking that shlavonic lengvich would get the poor bastard lost while a Pontic Greek would be able to converse with him and help him find where hes going. After getting him lost and making him travel for days Alexander would probably come back and beat the slavonic snot out of ur dedo.

And thats that laughche.

[Crn Volk]

The difference between them and you is quite simple, If your hero Alexander rose from the dead and needed directions to find his fathers tomb in Vergina , your peasant grandad speaking that shlavonic lengvich would get the poor bastard lost while a Pontic Greek would be able to converse with him and help him find where hes going. After getting him lost and making him travel for days Alexander would probably come back and beat the slavonic snot out of ur dedo.

And thats that laughche.

The Pontic Greek speaks Turkish, unless his dedo studied Greek in school. I wasn't aware Alexander spoke Turkish....

[Guapo]

They're descendants of Greeks, but I definitely think many are somewhat mixed, even if at a minor level.

I'm only basing this off what I see with my eyes though. Many look quite exotic to me for European standards and look quite different from the average mainland Greek.

They're descendants of Hellenized Anatolians, like Cypriots. They speak Greek for centuries but look different from mainland Greeks, or is it the other way around? Were the mainland Greeks Hellenized by them?

[The Lawspeaker]

Pontic Greeks are mix of different peoples like Georgians, local Laz people, Turks, Greeks and christian Tatar Turks from northern Blacksea.

Btw, i have to say that the most mingled population of Anatolia was the rural people around Blacksea. So, intermarrying among muslim and christians was so common among them unlike the other parts of Turkey. Thats why, the culture, clothing of today`s muslim Blacksea people are exactly same as the so-called Pontic Greeks. I mean, you could spot differences between a Greek and a Turk from Istanbul but you couldn't do that for the Turks and Greeks of Blacksea during Ottoman era.

Before the population exchange of 1923, christians was using a language called Romaika, an amalgam of Turkish and Byzantine Greek with some minor Georgian vocabulary. It was mostly foreign to Istanbul/Izmir Greek and completely alien to today`s modern Greek language. Unfortunately this unique language of blacksea christians has been regarded as ottomanism/turkism in modern Greece and deliberately erased, forgotten after they gone to Greece but today there are few people in Turkey who can still speak this language.

Interesting. I didn't know that. What is the position of the Pontic Greeks within Turkish society ?

[Guapo]

Interesting. I didn't know that. What is the position of the Pontic Greeks within Turkish society ?

a pinch of salt, Dutchy a pinch of salt.

[The Lawspeaker]

a pinch of salt, Dutchy a pinch of salt.

I asked Onur. Why ? Because they were an historic minority in his country.

[Guapo]

I asked Onur. Why ? Because they were an historic minority in his country.

No, can I borrow a pinch of salt? or a gram of weed?

[Γέλως]

Descendants of Ionian Greeks.