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    why does this thread has 100 pages + ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Strategist View Post
    why does this thread has 100 pages + ?
    You ask too many general questions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    You ask too many general questions
    Seems people don't strictly stick to the main theme in threads

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    When i was Dobra Voda in the day of final of the world championship in basketball Serbia - Germany in 5-6 bars were broadcasting match. Bars were full and at least half of guests were Montenegrins who supported Serbia. From one Montenegrin guy i heard in Rafailovići near Budva they didn't allow watching that match justifying it with security reasons. Real reason it because in Budva area live and work a lot of people from Cetinje who are very anti-Serbian. Around Bar local people are different.

    As whole Montenegrins are more relaxed, friendlier and more natural than Serbs (and others) from Serbia. In Montenegro it often happening that unknown person begins conversation with you like you are friends whole life. In Serbia it is almost impossible, especially in Belgrade, Novi Sad and other bigger cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varda View Post
    Bosnian Serbs are not of Vlach origin. Only Tuzla Bosniaks are noticeable more northern shifted then them, because to a large degree they are descendants of Muslims settlers/refugees (muhajeers) from Hungary, Slavonia and Vojvodina in the late 17th century (so called Unđurovci) who were partly islamized Hungarians, Slovaks, Rusyns etc. Bosnian Serbs are up to 60% I2-Y3120 + R1a (basic Slavic haplos). If Bosnian Serbs are of Vlach origin they would cluster with Aromanians and Albanians autosomally and they would be 60-70% E-V13 + J2 + R1b.

    Bosnian Serbs are not even close to Montenegrins autosomally regardless a lot of them claim further origin from Montenegro, let alone Vlachs. Bosniak_Bosnia is mostly based on Bosniak samples from Tuzla area.

    Who said Bosnian Serbs are vlachs in the sense that they are not slavic? It's clear bosnian serbs are partly slavic, but they were called vlachs by bosnian catholics and muslims because they had a different origin and maybe because they were often shepherds.
    I can't know it but I think Bosnian serbs are northern shifted probably because they mixed with bosnian catholics in the 16th-17th centuries.
    Is there a study on Bosnian Serbs were people are divided between lowlands and highlands? I suspect Serbs from Petrovac, Glamoč, Drvar, Grahovo plot southern than Prijedor, Dubica, Gradiška Serbs, and even more southern than Derventa, Odžak, Tuzla, Brčko Serbs. It's just an hypothesis.
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    Distance: 1.8437% / 0.01843713
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    0.8 Avar_Eurasian_steppe

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    Could somebody explain ex Yu genetics to a beginner? I assume we are all pretty similar

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    what makes me giggle is that in the short time I've been active, this is already the third or fourth thread I've seen on this topic. It seems to be the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Strategist View Post
    Could somebody explain ex Yu genetics to a beginner? I assume we are all pretty similar
    Yes, we are. The slight differences can be seen by looking at the Eurogenes K13 and Global25 national and regional averages. You can find them more easily by googling them.
    You take the records and put them on Vahaduo calculator.
    Long story short:
    Northern Croats are very close to Slovenians and Hungarians. Southern Croats are close to Bosnians.
    Serbs in Croatia and Bosnia are in between their catholic and muslim neighbours and Serbians and Montenegrins, with some variability according to the region and ancestry.
    Serbs are slightly more southern than others but Montenegrins and Macedonians, which are the most southern of all of ex-Yu. Macedonians are very close to Bulgarians and some Albanians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retfala View Post
    what makes me giggle is that in the short time I've been active, this is already the third or fourth thread I've seen on this topic. It seems to be the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything.
    It is the question that has divided humanity from the start

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