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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
    you have women under niqab and wahabis in Sarajevo too,i see them every time i am there.Not just in that village.Should we start banning nikabs now? come on,it is going a bit too far.
    Banning Niqabs is restricting liberties, I'm against that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
    you have women under niqab and wahabis in Sarajevo too,i see them every time i am there.Not just in that village.Should we start banning nikabs now? come on,it is going a bit too far.
    Maybe they are rich Saudi princesses who come to Sarajevo to spend their millions.

    If there would be a niqab banning, it would be on Serb initiative, even muslims who are against this outfit would feel it like an attack on their religion.
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    If there would be a niqab banning, it would be on Serb initiative, even muslims who are against this outfit would feel it like an attack on their religion.
    true,there was a try in RS to ban hijab in schools,and even the communist Bosniaks were against it
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
    If you asked in a poll bosniaks "do you support shariah?" you would hear many "yes".Supporting it does not mean fighting against a country.
    Why would you assume that 'many' out of 2 million people would support Sharia? It would mean the banning of alcohol (important to Bosnian social and cultural events), dogs, restriction of certain liberties, praying five times a day, banning of pork, Muslims will only be allowed to marry other muslims, introduction of the death penalty, etc.

    I wouldn't want me or my relatives to live in a place like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medvjed View Post
    Why would you assume that 'many' out of 2 million people would support Sharia? It would mean the banning of alcohol (important to Bosnian social and cultural events), dogs, restriction of certain liberties, praying five times a day, banning of pork, Muslims will only be allowed to marry other muslims, introduction of the death penalty, etc.

    I wouldn't want me or my relatives to live in a place like that.
    because you have many religious people in Bosnia,you cant accuse all of them to be "enemies"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medvjed View Post
    Banning Niqabs is restricting liberties, I'm against that.
    Nope, banning burqa/niqap is banning something restricting and against the liberties. Even if it only prevents that particular person`s liberty, it should be the state`s duty to ban it for the good of the society.

    Leaving everyone alone and let them do whatever they want is not a path to liberty. Without organizations, institutions, NGOs regulating and strictly controlling the liberty issues in the country, no one can bring liberty to anywhere. Regulation and control in the name of liberties is a must.

    If the state doesn't do that and leaves everyone alone as you suggested then someone like nusret imamovic shows up and does that job in the name of his mentors in Jordan and the wahhabis under CIA control.

    Quote Originally Posted by bosnian View Post
    because you have many religious people in Bosnia,you cant accuse all of them to be "enemies"
    Maybe they are not enemies of the state yet, because they are not powerful enough to resist to the state itself atm but when the time comes, they will be the enemy of the state for sure. Like i said, this is something inevitable. Sooner or later they will do that for sure because;

    They are against the "kafir" regime of your state. They are against the hanafis which most of Bosnians adhere to and you are kafirs in their eyes because they support sunni wahhabism themselves and you don't. They are against the women who doesn't wear burqa/hijab. They are against pretty much everything you do and most importantly they are getting funded by a foreign and unknown sources from Saudi Arabia, CIA and god knows whom else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onur View Post
    If you wanna secure the libertarian rights of others in the country then you guys have to prevent these freaks. And how about the brainwashed children in their village? How about their rights? A state should protect it`s citizens against false brainwashing.

    These people are trying to create a state within a state and this is a crime more than enough reason to destroy them and their nests.



    You are so funny. They are obviously brainwashing their children in their nests. If i put you in a place when you were a kid, a place where everyone walks around naked and present this to you as a norm, then wearing cloths becomes absurd to you when you grow up.

    The women in burqa who supposedly "wants" to wear it by their own will are like that. They have been brainwashed to think like burqa is a norm but it is not.
    What you call "brainwashing" they consider truth. I don't think the state has the right to interfere into a person's choice of beliefs. I might disagree with a person's beliefs but I don't have the right to infringe my beliefs on to them. In addition, singling out these groups will only strengthen their ideology and allow them to play the "victim" card and make their beliefs more appealing to the mass.

    These people are a small minority and I think it is the role of the society to deal with them not the government' (unless this group is breaking laws.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNird View Post
    What you call "brainwashing" they consider truth. I don't think the state has the right to interfere into a person's choice of beliefs. I might disagree with a person's beliefs but I don't have the right to infringe my beliefs on to them. In addition, singling out these groups will only strengthen their ideology and allow them to play the "victim" card and make their beliefs more appealing to the mass.

    These people are a small minority and I think it is the role of the society to deal with them not the government' (unless this group is breaking laws.)
    exactly!
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    If he's got more satire songs please post them or just other Bosniaks with similar songs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyes Of The Tiger View Post
    If he's got more satire songs please post them or just other Bosniaks with similar songs
    What kind of songs are you talking about? Comedic?

    Here's another song by him. He's more of a conceptual artist rather than a musician though.

    [YOUTUBE]Mfu9ugPbjxA[/YOUTUBE]

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