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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    The Macedonian government must end name negotiations with Greece and forget the EU and Nato. The name must remain the Republic of Macedonia.

    And regarding the Bulgarian prime ministers comments about land claims. No, there will not be land claims, we do not wish to claim any land and it is not possible to do so anyway.
    Not every Macedonian thinks like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    The Macedonian government must end name negotiations with Greece and forget the EU and Nato. The name must remain the Republic of Macedonia.

    And regarding the Bulgarian prime ministers comments about land claims. No, there will not be land claims, we do not wish to claim any land and it is not possible to do so anyway.
    That would be a wrong decision.They are not giving you ultimatum to change the name.The name problem of Macedonia is a deadlock situation neither you want to give up neither the Greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armani View Post
    Not every Macedonian thinks like you.
    I think like him. Some of us don't want anyone's land.
    Edit: Or history.
    Last edited by Midori; 06-09-2012 at 02:11 PM. Reason: added

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armani View Post
    Not every Macedonian thinks like you.
    Every country has people with irredentist ideas. Those type of people are not in parliament to make land claims anyway. I think the vast majority of Macedonians just wish to work, feed themselves and their family and live a peaceful life with no issues.

    I will say it again. There is no claims of land by the Macedonian government nor are they dumb enough to do so. By us keeping the name we freely chose after we gained independence from Yugoslavia has no irredentist thoughts along with it.

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    This recent move by Borisov is basically revenge for creating the Third Half movie of which was mostly financed by the Macedonian government.
    Macedonian media are actively commenting on the recent statmeents made by Bulgarian Prime Minsiter Boyo Borisov, and more precisely about his position on the name dispute.

    Bulgaria does not agree for Macedonia’s name to contain a geographical term, Prime Minister Boyko Borisov said on Friday.

    According to him propositions such as Northern Macedonia are absolutely unacceptable, because from a geographical point of view parts of Bulgaria are included in this name. And this is a prerequisite for territorial claims to Bulgaria, he said.

    The firm position of the Bulgarian PM did not pleased by media in Skopje, which interpreted his statements as they wished. The commentaries are connected only to the conclusion that Bulgaria is interfering in the name issue, missing to mention that Borisov said further that the countries in the Balkans should build their infrastructure and that Bulgaria has always backed and still supports Macedonia’s EU and NATO bid.

    “One day it will be said that Blagoevgrad is Macedonian,” Macedonian Sitel TV nostalgically said in its commentary on the statement of Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov about the future name dispute talks.

    The television remarks that Bulgaria is against the geographic term in Macedonia’s name, because this way there will be a risk of some territorial claims in the future.

    Sitel comments that this way Bulgaria is interfering in the name issue between Macedonia and Greece.

    The television says further that according to Macedonian political experts, it will be best to terminate the talks with Greece and Macedonia to concentrate on the economic issues and structural reforms.

    Sitel also cites statement by Macedonian analyst Donev, who says that if the name issue with Greece is solved, then it will be Bulgaria’s turn. It is believed that Bulgaria is doing this because of internal problems.

    According to Macedonian experts, a change of the name and the constitution will lead to change of the history, nation and language of Macedonia. Analysts think that none of Macedonia’s neighbours wants solution to the name issue.

    The name North Macedonia is unacceptable for the Bulgarians, said Macedonian Vecer daily, which is close to the government of Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski.

    The newspaper cites statements of Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov, who said that such a geographic term could lead to some territorial claims in the future.

    Vecer writes further that representatives of the Macedonian government and Foreign Affairs Ministry have not commented on Borisov’s statements. The daily newspaper recalled that the idea for a name with geographic term has been backed by leader of the Greek far-left party SYRIZA Alexis Tsipras.

    Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov was provoked by Macedonian journalists during the Balkan Forum hosted by Sofia, Macedonian online news edition A-On comments.

    The news edition thinks that the statement of the Bulgarian prime mistier about Macedonia, while speaking of the name dispute with Greece, and about The Third Half movie, came as a result of questions asked by Macedonian journalists.

    A-On points at Borisov’s statement that there has never been a swastika on Bulgaria’s flag.

    Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov is afraid that Macedonia will take away the Bulgarian town of Blagoevgrad, writes Macedonian online news edition Kirilica.

    Kirilica remakes that Bulgaria finds a name with geographic term for Macedonia unacceptable, since this could lead to some territorial claims in the future.

    In an article titled ‘Borisov afraid that the Macedonians may occupy Bulgaria’ the Macedonian online news edition Denesen.mk comments on the recent statements of Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov about the future change of the name of Macedonia and the consequences it could possibly bring.

    Denesen writes further that a possible name with geographic term for Macedonia is absolutely unacceptable for Bulgaria, since with such a term could also cover territories, which belong to Bulgaria.

    Macedonian news edition E-Reporter published an article titled ‘Borisov with a fly on his hat: Macedonia to claim Blagoevgrad, too’ in which it comments on the recent statements of Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov about the Macedonia’s name issue.

    The news edition remarks that the Borisov has said that Bulgaria finds a name with geographic term unacceptable.

    “Borisov is scared because the Macedonians may claim the town of Blagoevgrad” – this is what Macedonian 24 Vest online news edition says in a commentary on the recent statements of Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov about the Macedonia’s name issue.

    According to the 24 Vest, any geographic term and geographic changes in the name of Macedonia are absolutely unacceptable for Bulgaria but the country still backs Macedonia’s European-Atlantic integration.

    “Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov’s complexes, connected to the falsification (for decades) of the history of the country he governs, have nothing to do with my movie,” said Darko Mitrevski, director of The Third Half movie, speaking for online news edition .

    “On the one hand it is a fact that Bulgaria was member of the Axis and a country with pro-Nazi regime during the WWII, a country responsible for the death of 11,000 Jews from Macedonia and Thrace in the gas chambers of the Treblinka extermination camp. This is information, which I announce for the first time. This information can be found online, on the websites of the Holocaust Memorial Museum, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, the Israeli Yad Vashem Museum… Why doesn’t Boyko Borisov point at them but he rather focused on me? Since he cannot hit the donkey, he hits the packsaddle. This speaks of his character, not of me,” he added.

    “On the other hand, The Third Half is not a hitlerite movie. In fact Borisov cannot say what kind of movie it is, since he has not watched it. Here we come to the end of his competence in the movies topic. What amuses me is his hurt statement – ‘where did you find this topic?’ In other words, Borisov does not deny what has happened – he is only angry that I decided to shoot a movie on this issue. In other words – he fault lies not with the naked king but with the child, who said the king was naked. And to avoid any misunderstandings – when I say ‘the king’ I do not mean Boyko Borisov. I mean the war criminal Boris III,” Mitrevski commented further.

    The news edition comments that since the very beginning the movie has caused some ‘hormone reactions in Bulgaria’.

    http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?id=n280113


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    Borisov said his country objected to the idea of neighbouring Macedonia being renamed with a geographical qualifier, such as "Northern", as it might then encourage Macedonian territorial claims against Bulgaria.



    The Bulgarian Prime Minister told TV+ channel that different versions of Macedonia’s potential future name have been discussed in Bulgaria, including "Northern Macedonia."

    "I said that we would not accept this, since the next day they would say Blagoevgrad [in Bulgaria] is Macedonian," Borisov said, referring to the town in southwestern Bulgaria close to the Macedonian border.

    Borisov’s remarks come at a time when such possible solutions appear only hypothetical, as UN-led talks between Macedonia and Greece have been stalled for over a year.

    Since 2008 Greece has blocked Macedonia's Euro-Atlantic aspirations, insisting that use of the name "Macedonia" implies territorial claims to its own northern province of the same name.

    UN-led talks between the two sides have so proved unsuccessful. Media have speculated in the past that a name like "Northern Macedonia", which would distinguish the country from the Greek province, could work as a compromise.

    The historic region of Macedonia covers an area in the Balkans that is much larger than the present Republic of Macedonia.

    Afteer the Balkan wars of 1912-1913, and the signing of the 1913 Treaty of Bucharest, the former Ottoman territory was split between Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia.

    The modern Republic of Macedonia includes only the area that fell to Serbia and which later became an autonomous republic within Yugoslavia.

    http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...hern-macedonia


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    The name Northern Macedonia implies the Republic of Macedonia. Pirin is east of Macedonia. So I don't understand why Borisov would even object to such a name.

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    Now they had no problem.

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    why not Slavo-Macedonia or Bulgaro-macedonia

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