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    My DNA has been tested and the results for my paternal DNA (y-chromosome) is I2a2a.

    Information on Haplogroup I2a:

    Haplogroup I2a is characterized by the genetic Marker P37.02, which appeared for the first time 15,000 years ago. It originated in the Balkans, where it is most widely distributed yet today.

    Haplogroup I2a distinguishes itself from other tribes that sought in the Balkans a refuge from the ice sheet during the Ice Age. As one of the few original tribes, they survived the Ice Age and expanded into Romania, Poland, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia.

    The hard environmental conditions during the Ice Age led to a drastic decrease of the human population and the genetic diversity of Europe.
    I only purchased the basic package with 12 markers and I have been told that my possible place of origin is in todays Croatia and Bosnia & Herzegovina. My subclade is: I2a2a-M423-Din-S.

    This is the definition of my subclade that I received.
    You are probably wondering what I2a2a-M423-Din-S means? The I2a2a
    was assigned by ISOGG. The M423 means Familytreedna thinks you will test
    positive for the SNP M423. Din-S is short for Dinaric Alps, south of the Danube
    River. The Dinaric Alps lie on the north of Italy and extend southward along
    the Adriatic Ocean. The Danube River begins in lower Germany and extends
    eastward to the Black Sea. So geographically, your ancient ancestors lived
    in this area back thousands of years ago. You can read about your Dinaric
    group at our I2a Website, using the link above.
    Matches Map. Red is exact matches, Orange is 1 step matches.




    Ancestral origins:


    Haplogroup origins:




    My mtDNA (maternal haplogroup) was found to be U4. I did not get much out of that but I did find one exact match in Romania.

    Here is some information on haplogroup U4:
    Haplogroup U, as a branch of family tree R, differentiated from it 50,000 years ago and is therefore one of the oldest haplogroups of Europe. The genetic diversification of the tribe is indicative of the great age.

    11% of current-day Europeans are direct descendants of Clan Mother U in the maternal line. Today one finds this haplogroup in north Africa, in Arabic Regions, in the Caucasus, but above all in Great Britain, southern France, and Basque territory.

    Cheddar-Mann is probably the most famous of the early exponents of haplogroup U. Cheddar-Mann was unearthed in 1903 in Gough’s Cave in Somerset, England. The corpse comes from the year 7,150 B.C. and was likely the victim of cannibalism.

    One sub-group of this branch, U5, is found almost exclusively among the Saami in Finland. The cultural, linguistic, and geographic isolation of this people led to a specific subgroup that was hardly disseminated.

    One further interesting sub-group of U is U6, which appears predominantly in the Middle East. 10% of all North Africans descend in the material line from haplogroup U6. In spite of the geographic distance between U5 and U6, both had the same first female ancestor, U.
    I find this whole thing very interesting but confusing at the same time. Any opinions, feel free to say them.

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    I2a2 as in (currently) I2a1b1 or I2a2 as in (formerly) I2b1? From the description in the thread, I'm going to guess the former. It's confusing, however. I2a2/I2a1b1 is a very young haplogroup, just abou 2800 years old. Which is why I'm uncertain.

    Frequency peaks in South-Slavic countries, Romania and Ukraine; diversity peaks in north Romania/Moldova and south Ukraine. The place with the peak diversity is probably the place of its origin.


    Reconstruction of Cheddar Man on the left, verified descendant Adrian Targett on the right. Both of them are your distant relatives.

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    Congratulations for your results.

    I2a2 is the dominant male lineage in Macedonia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horten View Post
    Frequency peaks in South-Slavic countries, Romania and Ukraine; diversity peaks in north Romania/Moldova and south Ukraine. The place with the peak diversity is probably the place of its origin.
    Highest frequencies are found in Bosnia-Herzegovina,it is a Paleo-Balkanic marker.I haplogroup is aboriginal and specific only to Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optimus View Post
    Congratulations for your results.

    I2a2 is the dominant male lineage in Macedonia.



    Highest frequencies are found in Bosnia-Herzegovina,it is a Paleo-Balkanic marker.I haplogroup is aboriginal and specific only to Europe.
    Read my post again, I mention that the peak frequency is in South-Slavic countries and Romania and Ukraine, which is true. It is the most common in Bosnia and Herzegovina of all the countries though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horten View Post
    I2a2 as in (currently) I2a1b1 or I2a2 as in (formerly) I2b1? From the description in the thread, I'm going to guess the former. It's confusing, however. I2a2/I2a1b1 is a very young haplogroup, just abou 2800 years old. Which is why I'm uncertain.

    Frequency peaks in South-Slavic countries, Romania and Ukraine; diversity peaks in north Romania/Moldova and south Ukraine. The place with the peak diversity is probably the place of its origin.


    Reconstruction of Cheddar Man on the left, verified descendant Adrian Targett on the right. Both of them are your distant relatives.
    Apparently haplogroup I2 originated in south east Europe 15,000-17,000 years ago and then evolved into three sub-groups: I2*, I2a, and I2b.

    Haplogroup I, which I2 comes from, has it's possible place of origin in Europe some 25,000-30,000 years ago, which makes it one of the oldest European haplogroups.

    As I mentioned, most likely my place of origin is south of the Dinaric alps according to the person who managers people with haplogroup I2a2 on Family Tree DNA.

    Here is a map showing where I2a is most frequent.

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    Gratz, you are descendant of Slavic invaders from eastern europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    Gratz, you are descendant of Slavic invaders from eastern europe
    No, I'm Indigenous to the Balkans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    No, I'm Indigenous to the Balkans.
    I2a2a originated in eastern europe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    I2a2a originated in eastern europe
    Haplogroup I2a is characterized by the genetic Marker P37.02, which appeared for the first time 15,000 years ago. It originated in the Balkans, where it is most widely distributed yet today.

    Haplogroup I2a distinguishes itself from other tribes that sought in the Balkans a refuge from the ice sheet during the Ice Age. As one of the few original tribes, they survived the Ice Age and expanded into Romania, Poland, Bulgaria and Yugoslavia.

    The hard environmental conditions during the Ice Age led to a drastic decrease of the human population and the genetic diversity of Europe.
    So I2a originates in the Balkans and then spread out, but my ancestors remained.

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    There is also a high concentration of I2a2a in north-east Romania, Moldova and western Ukraine. In 2010 has Ken Nordtvedt argued that I2a1b1 is too young not to have been a result of a sudden expansion.[16] According to him I2a1b1 arose not earlier than 2500 years ago in Eastern Europe. He has presumed this to be a consequence from the Slavic invasion of the Balkans, from the area north-east of the Carpathians since 500 CE.[17] In 2011 Nordtvedt has confirmed I2a1b1 is not older than 2,800 years.[18] In his last comments about Haplogroup I tree and the conjectured spread map, he locates the start of the I2a1b1 lineage around the middle course of the Vistula.[19]
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_I2_(Y-DNA)

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