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    Default Ancient Macedonians were not Greek

    The ancient Greek, Roman, and Jewish historians, geographers, and orators, speak of the Macedonians as distinct nation, separate from their Greek, Thracian, and Illyrian neighbors.

    Diodorus Siculus
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    The Macedonians and Alexander backed Coragus because he was one of them while the Greeks favored Dioxippus.
    From Europe, the Greek cities AND the Macedonians also sent embassies, as well as the Illyrians and most of those who dwell about the Adriatic Sea, the Thracian peoples and even those of their neighbors the Gauls, whose people became known then first in the Greek world.
    As the Macedonians defended themselves stoutly, many of the Greeks who pushed on rashly were killed.
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    After the death of Pyrrhus there were great warlike commotions not only in Macedonia, but in Asia and Greece
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    The Campaigns of Alexander

    When received the report that Alexander was moving forward to the attack, he sent some 30,000 mounted troops and 20,000 light infantry across the river Pinarus, to give himself a chance of getting the main body of his army into position without molestation. His dispositions were as follows:

    in the van of his heavy infantry were his 30,000 Greek mercenaries, facing the Macedonian infantry, with some 60,000 Persian heavy infantry- known as Kardakes.
    It is clear cut that we have a case were the ancient Macedonians adopted the Hellenic culture and language otherwise they were just a Paleo-Balkanic tribe related to the Greeks as much as with the Illyrians and Thracians.Modern Greek akademia are doing their best to brainwash the Greek masses with their pan-Hellenic fantasies.

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    Default Ancient Macedonians were not Greek

    You wish.

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    could be true, but what is true however is that they dont spoke slavic

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    This thread is new and refreshing.

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    "Hellenic" does not necessarily equal "Greek."


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    Another fool that gets down on it

    Values, culture, language, not race.

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    Persians agree with us according to their Wikipedia. Long live Macedonian-Persian brotherhood!

    All of this is in Republic of Macedonia's section.

    http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%AC%...86%DB%8C%D9%87

    In the sixth and fifth centuries BC, Macedonia was an independent kingdom, which unlike Athens and Sparta in Greece , allied Achaemenids was. This alliance was enough to Alexander, king of Macedonia at the time, played the role of the Iranian ambassador in Greece. In the fourth century BC, Philip Macedonian territory of Macedonia in northern Greece was dominated by them and established a strong army with troops Phalange and the great philosophers like Aristotle, there, for his country to the capital packing f reputation provided. However, when the king of Achaemenids , Artaxerxes III , he was prevented from expansion. With the death of Shah of Iran , Phillip stormed the Greek cities and some of them forced to obey her. Iran's political weakness of Artaxerxes III, and tried to exploit the slogan of liberating the Greek cities of Persian yoke, the Greeks gained support. At the same time in a celebration in Greece (Olympia, probably with his wife and his son Alexander the conspiracy) was mysteriously killed. After his son Alexander the Macedonian , father's unfinished work completed and the Macedonian domination over all Greece to European researchers. Some Greek cities for fear of the Macedonians joined and many fought and defeated. The city of Thebes after the failure of Alexander, was taken fully into bondage. And then to Alexander in 336 BC, Darius III , last king Achaemenid , declared war. After six years of war, the empire managed to conquer Iran. With his death in 322 BC. The realm of her world was divided among three of his commander. Macedonia under control at this time Ntygvns went. After several Greek cities on the Macedonians were distraught and one independent.

    In the middle of the second century BC, the Romans invaded Macedonia and the defeat of Philip V , the country with Greek cities, to be pulled under his banner. Of time for nearly six centuries, this land was the Romans in the fifth century AD until the disintegration of the Roman Empire, the Macedonian part of the Byzantine Empire to the capital Knstantynvpvl became. In the 7th century AD, with the influx of Slavs ethnic culture of the people of this land was transformed. Then the war between the Slavs and Bulgars in the 9th century was the commander of Bulgaria Tsar Simon occupied the Macedonian Tsar Simon after the land with his son, King ( Tsar Samuel ) went to the Bulgarians under control. Samuel defeated the Byzantines in the year 1014 AD, led to the country for a long time between the Byzantine Macedonia, the Bulgarians and the Serbs to be exchanged, and each of these powers have occupied for a time in Macedonia.

    In 1389 AD, when Macedonia was occupied by ethnic Serbs to leave the Ottoman Empire attempted to conquer Macedonia and Serbia, Macedonia, and was able to completely leadership Avtvm seized. The defeated Ottoman Turks in 1387 AD, by Russia, Macedonia once again with the signing the Treaty of St. Stefano between Russia and Bulgaria to the Ottoman Turks in Bulgaria have joined the West Macedonia with support from the Balkans to separate. Finally in 1893, patriotism Macedonia Macedonian revolutionary party formed to fight against the Ottoman government began to gain independence. But in May 1903 the revolutionaries had reached the zenith of its power by the way, were brutally massacred and their leader Kvvchh Dlky Macedonia became a symbol of racism homeland.

    In the First Balkan War in 1912 in Bulgaria , Greece and Serbia were united together against the Turks, but still could not get back to Macedonia. In the Second Balkan War (1913), these three countries were able to regain Macedonia from the Turks, but with the abandonment of Serbia and Greece, Bulgaria, Macedonia was divided between them. Macedonian revolutionaries who were demanding independence for Serbia's protests and protest against the monarchy, but King Mqdvnyhay language and even the name of Macedonia banned across the country. However, Macedonian revolutionaries during the Second World War to protect Serbia fought bravely and made ​​this country and why the government of Macedonia within Yugoslavia as an autonomous province of income. The first Mqdvnyhay language rules and the first independent church was established in 1952 Avrtdvks people of Macedonia.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ushtari View Post
    could be true, but what is true however is that they dont spoke slavic
    Languages change all the time. Modern Albanians don't speak ancient Illyrian, does that mean Albanians are Caucasian invaders?


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    What matters most is if the ancient Macedonians saw themselves as Greeks. If they did, then for all intents and purposes they should be considered such. If not then no.

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