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    Simon Wakefield, Golfer from Newcastle-under-Lyme. I think he could be Tronder but I know people will say Noric cause of the nose.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Simon Wakefield, Golfer from Newcastle-under-Lyme. I think he could be Tronder but I know people will say Noric cause of the nose.



    KN, doesn't show Corded for him to be Tronder

    Nordisch-Westisch or Westisch mit Nordische einschlag
    In other words: Atlantid type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norb View Post
    KN, doesn't show Corded for him to be Tronder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Simon Wakefield, Golfer from Newcastle-under-Lyme. I think he could be Tronder but I know people will say Noric cause of the nose.
    IMO the Norid phenotype is in fact the Bell Beaker steephead.

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    Origins

    Central European Nordid brachycephalized by Dinarid admixture (a varying though mostly stabilized blend). Coon speculated that the origin of the type was not so much a case of combination of Nordid and Dinarid strains, as an actual dinaricization of a Nordid population through interbreeding with Alpinids - a hypothesis which relies upon Coon's idea that Nordids are basically depigmented Mediterranids (click here for Coon's theory of dinaricization).
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    In most respects, the Norid type takes the form of a blond Dinarid variant. It displays features which are traditionally associated with the Dinarid race - a shallow nasion depression, leptorrhiny, great nose length, height, and convexity, great brachycephaly, and moderately tall stature. Norids are not, though, as accentuated in these Dinarid features as are the Dinarids themselves, but show a slightly less exaggerated nasality, a somewhat lower cephalic index (82-85), and a smaller stature, due to the predominance of the Nordid strain.
    Norids are, like Dinarids, planoccipital. This means that the occiput of the skull, the lower posterior bone extending from the foramen magnum to lambda, is straight rather than curved or projecting.

    Norids are characteristically blond, and approach Nordids in pigmentation. The hair is usually medium brown to golden blond, the eyes light or light-mixed, though this varies, and brown eyes are not uncommon. In areas where the Dinarid element predominates, pigmentation naturally tends in a more brunet direction.
    Desciption on the human phenotype net:
    Pale to fair skin. Straight or wavy, (ash) blonde, occasionally red hair, light mixed, often blue or grey eyes. (Rather) tall, mesoskelic, often mesomorph. Brachycephalic, mildly hypsicranic with a flattened occiput. Nose long, hyperleptorrhine, often convex. Facial features bony. Chin sturdy, but round. Forehead broad and high.
    Compare this with the description of Kurt Gerhardt, he was specialized in the physical anthropology of the bell beakers:
    The straight, steeply sloping occiput, which is characteristic of the name of the steep planoccipital skull, results from the shape of the brain skull. This is brachymorphic (brachycran) and hypsimorphic (hypsicran) at the same time.68 That is, the skull is both high and wide in relation to its length. In the Norma verticalis, the planoccipital steep skull is described as "bag-shaped", in the frontal view (Norma frontalis) Gerhardt's observations correspond "on average" to those of Schliz: "Brachycephalic high skull with a long face, narrow-nosed and with a short, high palate and very broad forehead


    See the exact resemblance?

    And guess what, my 'measurements'

    Your cephalic index is: 83.8 (brachycephalic)
    Your height/length index is: 74.8 (hypsicephalic)
    Your height/breadth index is: 89.2 (acrocephalic)
    Your facial index is: 88.1 (leptoprosopic)
    Your upper facial index is: 56.3 (mesene)
    Your nasal index is: 56.9 (leptorrhine)

    and indeed with a flat occiput.....
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    I think Jill Biden is a good example


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver109 View Post
    I think Jill Biden is a good example

    Doesn't have the right eyes.

    This is a good example imo(even though she's most likely Brit/German descent, they do peak in east-central Europe though, I would guess Czechia has the most per capita):



    Sandi Morris is another example of Norid eyes(but she's +significant Hallstatt so nowhere near pred.)





    Also on Garibaldi, he's Norid+Med. Heavy Med influence in the eyes, eyes in the 1st pic are almost identical to Mussolini(who isn't a textbook Med because of his CM or Alpinid influences on his skull shape but his eyes are definitely textbook Med). Garibaldi's pigmentation and nose shape is right but his face is also a bit too long.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Doesn't have the right eyes.
    not all Norics look Ostblock though, especially in Swiss/ Austria.

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