Baltid/East-Baltid/West-Baltid, Alpine and Borreby

[Christina]

I can't distinguish them exactly since I am blind.
Can you post some pictures of them?
Then I would be appreciate.

[Joso]

If you are blind, then there is not much to help.

[Veslan]

Baltid/East-Baltid/West-Baltid

They are actually the same variable type that was originally refered to as East Baltic by actual anthropologists. On TheApricity "Baltid" is the most "intermediate" one, "West-Baltid" is more primitive featured ("CM" shifted) and "East-Baltid" is the most "Finnic" looking one (Lappoid shifted). But I recommend either classifying all of them as East Baltic, or classifying "Baltids" as Tavastid and "East-Baltids" as Savolaxid because even the humanphenotypes.net got rid of "x-Baltid" names. All of these types have rather light or lightish pigmentation.

Alpine and Borreby

Alpine is darker pigmented and usually doesn't have "mongolized" eyes. Borreby is typically light or intermediate pigmented, but unlike Alpine and all the previous types, with a much bigger head and usually less narrow nose as well.

[Joso]

They are actually the same variable type that was originally refered to as East Baltic by actual anthropologists. On TheApricity "Baltid" is the most "intermediate" one, "West-Baltid" is more primitive featured ("CM" shifted) and "East-Baltid" is the most "Finnic" looking one (Lappoid shifted). But I recommend either classifying all of them as East Baltic, or classifying "Baltids" as Tavastid and "East-Baltids" as Savolaxid because even the humanphenotypes.net got rid of "x-Baltid" names. All of these types have rather light or lightish pigmentation.

Alpine is darker pigmented and usually doesn't have "mongolized" eyes. Borreby is typically light or intermediate pigmented, but unlike Alpine and all the previous types, with a much bigger head and usually less narrow nose as well.

I don't think borreby heads are much bigger than alpine's, metrically they doesn't seen so different.

[Mr.G]

I think of Borreby as having a higher, more vertical forhead compared to Alpine and certainly when compared to East Baltid.

[cass]

LOL. West Baltid is therm used ONLY by Russian anthtopologists as a synonyme of Skandonordid.

Valery Alekseyev classification of Europe:

- Baltic or Northern race
- Central European Race
- Mediteranean or Southern race

Baltic or northern race - Балтийская или североевропейская локальная раса is divided into:

West Baltic group of populations - Западнобалтийская группа популяций
East Baltic group of populations Восточнобалтийская группа популяций
Laponoid group of populations Лапоноидная группа популяций

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Антроп...ва


Every other meaning of West Baltic/id is pure internet invention.

[Ülev]

Christina - Last Online 01-22-2015 @ 09:34 AM

[Veslan]

I don't think borreby heads are much bigger than alpine's, metrically they doesn't seen so different.

Borrebies have head lenght and breadth combined higher than 355 mm. Alpines have below 355.

[Columella]

Make it easy
Baltic (East Baltic from Coon)

Baltic with Laponoid and/or Mongoloid influences

Alpine from Coon

Many in Central and Eastern Europe range between the two types.
“West Baltid”’it’s an Internet invention don’t worry about it.

Borreby is an archaic type. Quite massive. Today hard to find we mostly have pseudo-Borrebies which are mostly Nordic-Baltic Alpine mixes.

[Harkonnen]

West Baltic (Neo-Danubian) differs from East Baltic in that the face shape is more elliptical:

The lips of the Lithuanians arc somewhat thicker membranously, and more frequently evened than those of the Letts, although still they must be considered as medium. Great differences are found in tire soft parts of the eye, for while an external fold occurs in 55 per cent of Letts, only 17 per cent of Lithuanians have it. Some degree of upward obliquity of the eye slit is found in 40 per cent of casts, slightly higher than with Letts. The chin form is usually rather wide and rounded. Although we have no comparative data on malars, the indication is that they are no less prominent, in any event, than those of the Letts. Although the Lithuanians arc clearly less Nordic morphologically than are the Letts, they are at the same time less typically East Baltic in the Finnish sense in the total contour of the face, for more elliptical and fewer rectangular shapes are found among them.

The deviation of the Lithuanians from their Lettish kinsmen cannot, however, be attributed in major degree to the absorption of Tatar blood. The Lithuanians are more southerly in habitat than the Letts, and are in contact with different neighbors; they form as a national group a branch of the greater East Baltic race, but a somewhat different variety from that of the other peoples living on the eastern side of the Baltic Sea. Their divergence in a racial sense points to the populations which we will study later in eastern Germany, Poland, and western Russia.

https://theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX12.htm