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    Default "Sever" means North in most Slavic languages.

    It would be interesting to know where the slavs got the word SEVER from which means NORTH. Some slavic countries use a different word.

    Proto Indo-European for north/north wind: kēuero-, kōuero-, also skūro-?


    Proto-Slavic: sěverъ /ˈsʲevʲɪr/
    1.north
    2.North — northern part of any region
    3.Arctic, northern parts of Russia
    Кра́йний Се́вер — literally: Far North, Russian territories that lie to the north of the Arctic circle.



    Gothic: skura n.fem windstorm
    Latin: caurus/cōrus n.masc northwest wind
    Lithuanian: šiáurė n north, šiaurỹa n north wind

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    Old Bulgarian. сѣверъ sěverъ , primary designation of north wind. Comparison: Lit. šiaurė „north wind, north“, Lat. caurus „Northeast wind“ , English: shower „rain“

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    There are a lot of words with the same meaning in nearly all slavic languages:

    Just a few random examples:

    Day = dan
    fish = riba
    brother = brate
    heart = srce
    water = voda
    valley = dolina
    ghost = duh
    tree = drevo
    price = cena
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    Well this word seems to be taken into baltic from latin and from baltic taken into slavic.
    latin caurus-baltic siaure-slavic sever
    I wonder when slavs will accept this.
    They do not know that Peter the Great brought an italian architect for Sankt Petersburg so he have a Roman Empire looking city.
    And Sankt Petersburg is most beautiful city from north Europe,because is in North Europe,not matter what most scandos will say.

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    Yes, it most likely descends from the Proto-Indo-European root you mentioned. Slavic langauges are - like the Indo-Iranian family - Satem langauges, as opposed to Centum ones such as Germanic and the extinct Tocharian branch. During the development of the Satem cluster, /k/ shifted to /s/ under certain circumstances.

    Kēuero -> (potentially) sēuero -> (eventually) sever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by romanul View Post
    Well this word seems to be taken into baltic from latin and from baltic taken into slavic.
    latin caurus-baltic siaure-slavic sever
    I wonder when slavs will accept this.
    They do not know that Peter the Great brought an italian architect for Sankt Petersburg so he have a Roman Empire looking city.
    And Sankt Petersburg is most beautiful city from north Europe,because is in North Europe,not matter what most scandos will say.
    variations of k and sh (š) is obviously a result of centumization/sentumization.

    This is not an Italian loan in Lithuanian.

    P.S. It's šiaurỹs, not šiaurỹa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by east View Post
    English: shower „rain“
    The English word shower does seem to be related to the slavic word for north. Also to note, it seems only Serbo-Croats use the word kisha (kiša) for rain although the word used by other slavic countries, dažd, is understood.

    Quote from Etymologyonline:

    O.E. scur "short fall of rain, fall of missiles or blows," from W.Gmc. *skuraz (cf. O.N. skur, O.S., O.H.G. scur, Ger. Schauer, Goth. skura, in skura windis "windstorm"), from *skuro, from PIE root *kew-(e)ro- "north, north wind" (cf. L. caurus "northwest wind;" O.C.S. severu "north, north wind;" Lith. siaurus "raging, stormy," siaurys "north wind," siaure "north").

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