Should Belgium be split up?

[Holle Bolle Gijss]

Belgium should be split up... Let Flanders reunite with the Netherlands again like it was before the Spanjards split us up.

Atm it is the most logical choice. On many fronts we are already interlinked, specially were it comes to law enforcement and penal system (some of the Dutch prisons are currently used to accommodate Belgian prisoners) and Armed forces.

Most people in Flanders want to be either independant or united with the Netherlands anyway. I very recently purchaced some property in a town called Baarle wich is part in the Netherlands (Baarle-Nassau) and part in Flanders (Baarle-Hertog) and what I gathered from the locals there (after spending an afternoon in a local pub) is that they hate Belgium and absolutely loathe those Wallonians with their french tongues...

And I mean lets face it... Who would want to live in a country were a group of wannabe french is basicly holding you for ransom, cause without the good people of Flanders the annual income of Wallonia would plumet and to top it off they try to force the french language on you...

[The Lawspeaker]

And I mean lets face it... Who would want to live in a country were a group of wannabe french is basicly holding you for ransom, cause without the good people of Flanders the annual income of Wallonia would plumet and to top it off they try to force the french language on you...

The Walloons themselves are being victimised by their own "socialist" party and they have already seen their own dialects replaced by standard French during the late 18th and 19th century under French rule. I think we should definetely give them a chance and not reward France for imperialism and piss-poor behaviour. The Walloons, after all, fought the Eighty Years War alongside us and many protestants fled north after they lost the war.

[Holle Bolle Gijss]

The Walloons themselves are being victimised by their own "socialist" party and they have already seen their own dialects replaced by standard French during the late 18th and 19th century under French rule. I think we should definetely give them a chance and not reward France for imperialism and piss-poor behaviour. The Walloons, after all, fought the Eighty Years War alongside us and many protestants fled north after they lost the war.

Nice non argument there Tuan... Give 'm a chance for what? To be indepent? Sure. To dominant the people of Flanders? Cause thats what their trying to do. I would say NO!!!!

And were are THEY being victimised? Flanders wants independance, and with good reason, and all the Walloons are doing is putting Flanders in a head lock over this. And why? Money. Everyone with a wee bit of knowledge about Belgium knows that its annual Government budget goes for the best part towards Wallonia. So who is the victim here? On top of that you have the linguistic issue. Wallonia trying to force the french language on the people of Flanders.

So what if their dialects got replaced? That gives 'm the right to do the same on other peoples? So what if they were in a war at some point. So many peoples were, and as you so courtesly pointed out we (the Dutch) fought along side them. That means the Flanders people too Tuan cause they were part of the Netherlands remember? I dont get it anyways why you need to bring some irrelevant facts from the past into this.

So because little boy Wallonia got bullied in school makes it right for them to do the same to the people of Flanders?

[The Lawspeaker]

Nice non argument there Tuan... Give 'm a chance for what? To be indepent? Sure. To dominant the people of Flanders? Cause thats what their trying to do. I would say NO!!!!

And were are THEY being victimised? Flanders wants independance, and with good reason, and all the Walloons are doing is putting Flanders in a head lock over this. And why? Money. Everyone with a wee bit of knowledge about Belgium knows that its annual Government budget goes for the best part towards Wallonia. So who is the victim here? On top of that you have the linguistic issue. Wallonia trying to force the french language on the people of Flanders.

So what if their dialects got replaced? That gives 'm the right to do the same on other peoples? So what if they were in a war at some point. So many peoples were, and as you so courtesly pointed out we (the Dutch) fought along side them. That means the Flanders people too Tuan cause they were part of the Netherlands remember? I dont get it anyways why you need to bring some irrelevant facts from the past into this.

So because little boy Wallonia got bullied in school makes it right for them to do the same to the people of Flanders?

The Walloons were also part of the Netherlands, Holle. For much longer then they have been independent. Holy Roman Empire, United Kingdom of the Netherlands, remember ? Besides: we all know who pays Vlaams Blok (yes I know they changed their name but they haven't changed themselves): they are as pro-Zionist as can be so I don't take them seriously. And during WWI and WWII their forebears collaborated with the krauts.

[Albion]

Flanders ~ England
Wallonia ~ Wales / Northern Ireland.


Why no one in the media ever makes this comparison is beyond me, maybe they just don't know much about Belgium?

[Albion]

Besides: we all know who pays Vlaams Blok (yes I know they changed their name but they haven't changed themselves): they are as pro-Zionist as can be so I don't take them seriously. And during WWI and WWII their forebears collaborated with the krauts.

That's no reason to disregard the views of the Flemish people though.

[The Lawspeaker]

That's no reason to disregard the views of the Flemish people though.

It is. Since they have been let to believe that their former franskiljons masters were the same people as the Walloon workers. A bit like how the average Labour, GreenLeft and PVV voter here should be disregarded for their views. Besides: the Flemish hardly ever rose up against their oppressors: the Walloons did on several occassions and they were struck down most of the time (in 1893 it led to a bloodbath). There was also another revolt in 1896. The most recent of such general strikes/revolts was in 1960/1961.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Let's be realistic about the situation of Belgium. It is not going to break up or join another country because of one reason and only one ... Brussels is the capital of the EU. How do you think it would look to the international crowd if the nation that is hosting the capital city of the EU was suddenly destabilized to address nationalist interests? Not good. It is precisely why nothing will ever change about Belgium except status quo will continue to be maintained.

[poiuytrewq0987]

That said, I think Belgian citizens should just come together and forget their Flemish, Walloonian, whatever and start being proud for being Belgian and become something like Switzerland.

[The Lawspeaker]

Let's be realistic about the situation of Belgium. It is not going to break up or join another country because of one reason and only one ... Brussels is the capital of the EU. How do you think it would look to the international crowd if the nation that is hosting the capital city of the EU was suddenly destabilized to address nationalist interests? Not good. It is precisely why nothing will ever change about Belgium except status quo will continue to be maintained.

Kindly shove your pro-EU sentiments up your backside. You don't have to live under that appaling regime. You're in America.